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DPG VS DSM

Started by johnny9562001, December 23, 2007, 12:15:27 AM

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johnny9562001

i am debating between which format to use, the new dsm player from infatile paralyzer is extremely good, the best quality if ever seen, no blockyness and very smooth and fast frame rates. however its ridiculously huge, a bleach episode of 24 frames per second and 21 minutes came out to be 700mb, and even when i lowered the frames to 14 it was 500mbf and it was still very good high quality


so i tried the newest dpg converter, 1.31, and it was a lot smaller  even though i use the highest quality of 24 frames, pixel format rgb 21 for quality, mp2 audio, video bitrate 384kbs,smooth blending enable, mencoder high quality, brightness 110% and blur 90%. the size was only 70mb, a lot smaller, however in my opinion it look like shit compare to the dms.

so does anyone know what is the best way to get the best video quality on dpg conver 1.31? please respond only if you have a lot of experience or knowledge and have converted many video files.
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kkan

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DPG is a better smaller format than DSM I read a lot of forums and DSM can sometimes result in a 5 times bigger file!!!!

best way/advice really is to get best quality is to use the BEST QUALITY SOURCE!

why??? you cant get a SQUARE PEG IN A ROUND HOLE same as  you cant make CRAPPY/PIXELATED VIDEO into CINEMATIC/DVD QUALITY ;D

theres loads of thread of this on the forum search for DPG already and I posted my settings there for optimal video along with many others  :)

MY EXPERIENCE ..... 6+ years on a CDRW/DVDRW forum as ADMIN giving guidence on video conversion from avi/other souce to DVDS along with the rest of my forum team ;)

and GURU status here is NOT given to just ANYONE  ;)


additional  18-20 frames is about the norm to get a 700mb avi to a 300ish mb good quality DPG file :)

remembering the slower the PC/lack of (RAM) memory its processed on the LONGER it will take  :(






Devil_Spawn

i find dpg @ 320kb/s 20fps to be perfect quality to me, i dotn notice any pixelation or any other problems like that, i havent ever bothered with DSM.

Doggy124

I heard that using BatchDPG give better quality than DPGencoder(the one come with moonshell)


kkan

Quote from: Doggy124 on December 23, 2007, 10:20:42 AM
I heard that using BatchDPG give better quality than DPGencoder(the one come with moonshell)

this is true although I did not mention it above the thread that has my settings in is about BATCH DPG ;)

jmr

i put Transformers Beginnings on my sons NDS the other day in DSM format & it looked amazing  :smitten:
way better than i remember DPG looking in moonshell

but it was 700MB for 22 mins

dantheman

If you use the DPGtools that comes with Moonshell, go into the options and try changing it to the high-quality profile.  This will take a lot longer to encode, but it gives about the same filesize and gives higher quality.  Personally I mostly use BatchDPG, but it's an option you can try nonetheless.  I agree that DPGTools on the default low-quality setting leaves a lot to be desired.

Devil_Spawn

correct me if im wrong but..

batchdpg USED to be better because
a) it allowed higher quality/framerates
b)it allow batch conversions.

dpgtools now allows a better quality, because it uses the latest version of DPG, it also allows batch conversions, and its also very fast. i would reccomend everyone who has used batchdpg for a very long time, to retry the new dpgtools