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[Koji]

memyselfandi, you should check your facts first.  play-yan and play-yan micro are not the same damn thing. the 'micro' is not simply the american version of the play-yan.  And why are you being so rude?

well, i didn't want to be rude, but the first guy made me mad because he thinks that something that nintendo made, would let him play games for free!

Nintendo made the DS <_< You're kinda using it to play games for free.

No one has been able to figure out any way to hack a play-yan to play games... and I honestly don't think anyone will try all that hard. Play-yan was simply designed for video/audio.

[AnalogMan]

First off, for those who say the Play-Yan and Play-Yan Micro are the same things, here's a list of differences:

   *  Updated: The firmware update that allowed the original PY model to use MP4 format video files will now be included in the Play-Yan Micro. This means the Micro can play the video format without the 500kb patch taking up valuable storage space.
   * The graphical interface has been given a face lift, with the cute little guy that jumps around as music is being scrolled through being replaced by a more pedestrian figure. More color has also been added to spruce things up.
   * The sleep function has been changed to accomodate the Game Boy Micro's design. Previously, hitting L+R put the 'Yan to sleep, and hitting any face button woke it up. Since all of the Micro's face buttons are exposed (unlike the closed SP), the system may accidently come out of sleep mode. Because of this, sleep is now assigned to holding down the Start Button.
   * The Play-Yan Garage Games will no longer work on the Micro version, likely due to the redesign of the interface (and also because seeing the games on the tiny Micro screen would probably be impossible).
   * The bundled Media Stage software comes on a full-sized disc, rather than the smaller 8cm disc previously included. The version of Media Stage included appears to be the same version that came with the old Play-Yan model, which means no encoding support for the new firmware-enabled MP4 video.
   * The Play-Yan has exclusively been sold through Nintendo's website. While the PY Micro will still only be available through online retailers, the device will be available through online retailers other than Nintendo, such as Amazon Japan.

Second, there are some mini-games downloadable for the Play-Yan (disabled for Micro as stated above). With the firmware patch to allow the Play-Yan to decode MP4 format (the one added by default in Micro) I'm sure this can be exploited to load our own Supercard like firmware patch to allow it to run Homebrew, while keeping its built in Media Player functions, even if we have to put the firmware on each SD card itself.

[sneef]

thank you analogman. i didn't want to compile a list of differences between PY and PY micro just to prove my point, but you did it for us!  heh.. it's sort of like saying supercard CF v.1 and supercard CF v.2 are the same damn thing..  they are from the same company, they both serve the same purpose, but they are not identical.

[AnalogMan]

Although it does look like 100% firmware change. If we were to make our own firmware, then the dfferences would be null as far as I can tell. Does anyone have any info on the hardware Play-Yan & Play-Yan Micro has? I'm looking for RAM specifically. If it has decent RAM (>=32MB) then I may take this firmware addition expoit seriously and with permission, create some sort of Supercard firmware to transform the Play-Yan. If I can't get permission, well, I'll just have to start my own homebrew card XD (would totally fail, sucks at this sort of thing)

[pootang]

yeah it would be nice to see the play yan/play yan micro hax0red hehehe i'd buy one just for the sake of making the exploit

hehe