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[NT]

I know nothing about chips, but SURELY if there was a chip that could make it faster, it would have gone into the supercard design? Rommaster isn't an idiot.

When Romman was asked about the slowdown issues he denied they existed.

[mat]

OK, so he's ignorant. Doesnt make him stupid.

I guess it's true though, it's all down to cost. Still, most games run fine, and I think the super card's price is brilliant. I'm perfectly happy with the way it all works.

[Hectic]

OK, so he's ignorant. Doesnt make him stupid.

looks like you're the ignorant one.  ignorant means that you are uneducated.  it does not mean that you fail to observe problems. i'd say he's nowhere near ignorant, but just chooses not to admit to a fault in the product for economical reasons.  and stupid is a broad term which can be used as a replacement for the word ignorant.  class dismissed.

[NT]

OK, so he's ignorant. Doesnt make him stupid.

looks like you're the ignorant one.  ignorant means that you are uneducated.  it does not mean that you fail to observe problems. i'd say he's nowhere near ignorant, but just chooses not to admit to a fault in the product for economical reasons.  and stupid is a broad term which can be used as a replacement for the word ignorant.  class dismissed.

There will be no more flames coming from you.

[deluded]

im new to the supercard scene (in fact i dont even have one yet... ive always thought the idea would be great but didnt know it existed until very recently). i think im going to wait and see if the SC SD has any improvements over the SC CF before i buy either one. anyway...

I'm new as well, but a few thoughts..

The rom chips that carts use will normally work like SRAM chips. You set the address lines and the data becomes available. I'm aware there's some clever logic on the GBA to reduce the amount of pins on the cart, but the basic idea is still there.

Problem is that large SRAM chips are pricey (and large).

The SC cart seems to be using a SDRAM chip. This works in a different manner, so I can only assume that the Lattice programable logic chip is converting from one technology to another.

Unfortunately some delays will occur, since it takes more time (clock pulses) to setup the address lines on SDRAM than SRAM. I seriously doubt soldering a faster chip on will help.

If someone felt brave, they could try replacing the crystal from the 50Mhz to say a 66Mhz one. Probably wont work as I'd imagine the flash and lattice chips are clocked as fast as possible, but you never know

[keen31]

The SC cart seems to be using a SDRAM chip. This works in a different manner, so I can only assume that the Lattice programable logic chip is converting from one technology to another.

Unfortunately some delays will occur, since it takes more time (clock pulses) to setup the address lines on SDRAM than SRAM. I seriously doubt soldering a faster chip on will help.

:cry:

thanks for shedding some light on theory behind the ram and how you think it functions, a shame to hear though since it does pretty much sink any hope of re-rigging it for added speed :/

[torne]

Ah, just found this thread.. my reply to http://www.scdev.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=716&start=15 explains what the patch util is doing to *create* the slowdown issue (because if it doesn't, the games will crash). If the chip's SDRAM then it won't be too easy to get it running faster as it'll probably need the PLC modifying..

romman is clearly well aware of the slowdown problem, as his patching util explicitly disables wait state reconfiguration - if he didn't realise his ram was too slow, it wouldn't do that Of course, then games would just crash, usually during boot, as the ram fails to keep up..

[WarGames]

The idea of swapping components for funs sake is always good for laughs, but I agree that the chance of plug and play COMPATIBILITY is quite low, (let alone improvement) even if just replacing the oscillator as mentioned before, however, if you could get a hold of the code for the IC's , you might be able to change settings.....

i'd like to see this still discussed as it interests me and my field of studies, Electrical Engineering, and if we continue to dig up more information on the subject, the more likely i'll buy another supercard for soldering/replacing IC's osc's etc. and really test this out, after all, im working on the DS for my senior project

peace out