M3 just sped up ALL Sd-based models. Where's our update?

Hanafuda · September 06, 2006, 04:30:44 PM

The latest update from M3 has apparently given a nice speed boost to ALL M3-SD and M3-miniSD users. Considering they are currently launching their M3Lite as well, I'm surprised theyve extended this enhancement to their older products. You'd think they'd hold the tricks back, so people would buy an M3Lite to replace their old laggy M3-SD.

Anyway, where's our revv up? I've got a SC-miniSD, and I want more speed.

FifthE1ement · September 06, 2006, 07:16:59 PM

I don't think you are going to get it sorry and the SuperCard Lite is still faster than the M3 Lite with slower memory. SuperCard seems to have the lead in DS products in terms of flashcarts as they are much faster. GBA improvement is what we really need.

FifthE1ement

meangreenie · September 06, 2006, 07:19:07 PM

I dunno, i think it's a valid question especially sice EZ4 updated their entire range today, and fast minSD cards are getting perfect speed on the castlevania vid now.

Hanafuda · September 06, 2006, 07:23:39 PM

that's what I'm sayin'. this isn't about the M3Lite. In addition to launching that product, M3 released a software client/firmware update that gives a speed upgrade to ALL SD-based M3's. If they can optimize SD and miniSD so games like Castlevania, Tony Hawk, Animal Crossing etc run with no issues, then SC should be keeping up. It doesn't matter if the SD and miniSD Supercards aren't the "leading edge" anymore - its a question of support.

zektor · September 06, 2006, 07:35:53 PM

More speed where? Almost every NDS game plays at full speed perfectly already with all of the Supercards. If you are talking GBA speed, well, nothing will change the fact that the M3 uses Micron memory, and the SC uses cheaper Hynix memory. Or are you talking load speed? Even there it's like a second.

As for the other games running with no issues, well, I'll have to test them on my M3 miniSD and come to that conclusion. Knowing the track record of the SC team, if there is a way to increase the compatibility they will surely do it!

Hanafuda · September 06, 2006, 09:06:53 PM

QuoteMore speed where? Almost every NDS game plays at full speed perfectly already with all of the Supercards.

Almost every game ... exactly. The issues are minor, but it'd be nice to play Tony Hawk with no issues, to play Animal Crossing direct from the SD ather than needing to load it to the SC's RAM, and see the Castlevania intro vid play without missing a beat. More speed may also help with NSMB minigames, and future releases. More speed capability is always a good thing, even if 99% of the games currently released don't need it.

If M3 can do it for their SD and miniSD products, I'm hoping the SC steps up and does this too.

Cunundrum · September 06, 2006, 09:42:31 PM

Stop complaining. The SC is a nice product and does what it says. It is much more affordable than the M3 so should you really get jealous when the updates are faster for another product? If you are so unhappy.. sell it and buy the more expensive product. LIfe is simple that way.

zektor · September 06, 2006, 10:11:30 PM

The Supercard is a great device, and very compatible with homebrew. That is a big lacking on the M3 side. Ok, so the team released an update that increases SD speed. Neat. But I would MUCH rather them support devs that are dropping M3 support (DSOrganize) because they will not release sources to drivers and such. They do not even answer the emails from the developers. The M3 is a great device indeed, but is quickly becoming a "pirate" device only. Getting homebrew to run was such a crapshoot that I use the SC exclusively for that nowadays.

Hanafuda · September 06, 2006, 10:19:04 PM

Quote from: "Cunundrum"Stop complaining.

WTF I can't ask a friggin' question? All I'm sayin' is that the M3 team has shown that there is a way to get a bit more out of the regular SD and miniSD cards, so why shouldn't we hope for the same on our Supercards? I'm a big Supercard fan and in fact just bought another one (Black SCL) last night from RHS. I've got no interest in owning the M3. But if overall compatibility of my SCminiSD can be improved through a patcher/firmware update, then by all means let's have it. I don't consider this an "update" - it's an upgrade. And now we know its possible.

zektor · September 06, 2006, 10:34:01 PM

Quote from: "Hanafuda"
Quote from: "Cunundrum"Stop complaining.

WTF I can't ask a friggin' question? All I'm sayin' is that the M3 team has shown that there is a way to get a bit more out of the regular SD and miniSD cards, so why shouldn't we hope for the same on our Supercards? I'm a big Supercard fan and in fact just bought another one (Black SCL) last night from RHS. I've got no interest in owning the M3. But if overall compatibility of my SCminiSD can be improved through a patcher/firmware update, then by all means let's have it. I don't consider this an "update" - it's an upgrade. And now we know its possible.

How "possible" do you think it is? You do know that the M3 and the SC are not at all the same hardware wise, right? If the hardware does not allow the speed increases, well you'd just have to live with it.

PharaohsVizier · September 06, 2006, 10:35:48 PM

he was simply asking a question, if he saw that M3 has an increase in speed, and maybe Supercard can, I think he should be able to ask that.

I think it could be possible, M3 and Supercard are similar right? Maybe not the same but similar.

Hanafuda · September 06, 2006, 10:37:14 PM

Quote from: "zektor"

How "possible" do you think it is? You do know that the M3 and the SC are not at all the same hardware wise, right? If the hardware does not allow the speed increases, well you'd just have to live with it.

fair enough. but I don't think it's so wrong to hope they get it done.

zektor · September 06, 2006, 11:26:13 PM

Quote from: "Hanafuda"
Quote from: "zektor"

How "possible" do you think it is? You do know that the M3 and the SC are not at all the same hardware wise, right? If the hardware does not allow the speed increases, well you'd just have to live with it.

fair enough. but I don't think it's so wrong to hope they get it done.

No, not at all man. I have been hoping that this or that fix happens too, but if you go back and forth through these devices and actually own them...well, you'll eventually see that sometimes the "light" on the other side is not really all that bright afterall. I purchased the M3 thinking it would be SO much better than the SC. If you play GBA/NDS games it is...to an extent. The menus are slow, the save system is horrible, you have to boot into GBA mode to run GBA stuff...it is a chore to run games. When you do run them they run great tho...

If you want to play NDS and homebrew without any hassle, the SC is still the best bet. Now, if the M3 team made the save system, menu system, and homebrew compatibility up to speed...maybe the SC team would be sweating some. That is what they should be doing rather than trying to get a Castlevania intro to run faster

754boy · September 07, 2006, 12:26:26 AM

What I don't inderstand is why try fixing something when it doesn't need to be. Who cares if the M3 SD got sped up. You wont even notice it unless you watch the Castlevania video??? Videos are stupid anyway, watch it once......no need to see it again. Like Zektor said, 99.98% of the games run perfectly so why cry about it. I think that time could be spent upgrading the firmware or sumthin :?

cbutters · September 07, 2006, 08:55:32 AM

I don't think it is an issue with your supercard, I think you probably need to buy a higher speed mini SD card. What are you currently running? if it isn't a 150x card or higher, you don't have any reason to complain because you can get that speed by upgrading to a better miniSD card, I had a ritek 150x card and I didnt have any problems with any games I played. Tony Hawk included.

And if the M3 got a speed boost, doesn't that mean that their performance isnt up to par as it is? did the speed boost get them to 100% performance like we supercard users are experiencing on 99% of the games?