flash with superkey ?? ndl

vtr4423 · June 16, 2006, 02:29:14 AM

is any one have flash v7 with superkey ? nds lite..
tell us about ?
i has done a few with superpass2.

thx.

kennyboy · June 16, 2006, 03:13:11 AM

you can....it works the same...even more easy cos no need to program the superkey like the superpass2

Madrigal · June 16, 2006, 03:23:44 AM

Why bother flashing? The Superkey works perfectly, just as if you had flashed it. This way you can save your warranty too.

darkuni · June 16, 2006, 11:24:24 AM

It also offers you no protection against malware code. Your unflashed DS is vulnerable to malware code. While the risk appears low at this time, I personally believe this will change. Flashing will be the ONLY "safe" way to run unsigned code on your DS.

As for flashing with the Superkey, I have done it as well, and it works exactly the same as the Max Media Launcher. Please see my tutorial on flashing with the MML and simply substitute the Superkey in place of the MML.

DeVS · June 16, 2006, 11:35:39 AM

I doubt we the an all of a sudden attck of bricker code. I mean whens the last time anyone even seen it? Theres programs to detect it in games and if you get your homebrew from respectable sites you have little to worry about. Besides I would venture to say more people were using a Superpass/Passkey before then flahsme me anyways. I think u have a greater risk of bricking your DS Lite trying to flash it then you do getting the bricker code in a game or homebrew.

darkuni · June 16, 2006, 11:52:22 AM

As I mentioned in another post (worth mentioning here) is that security is only a matter of numbers. When 1000 people used Firefox, security issues were low. When 10,000,000 people started using Firefox, we get WEEKLY security issues with it. It is the same reason that hackers target larger products than smaller ones; it is about the numbers.

I'll grant you - the risk is low; now. But how many people here are ACTUALLY looking to run "legitimate" homebrew and not "p1r4t3d D5 r0mz0rs"? I mean the only place to get those things are grey sources like torrents, newsgroups, and other breeding grounds for malware. If the DS gets popular enough, this stuff will mal-out; after all, the original bricker was slanted to make people buy Neo cards (sickening to be honest with you). You don't believe this could happen again?

Honestly, the Superkey is the BEST alternative to flashing and I must say I like it A LOT. However, I haven't seen any PERSONAL evidence of flashing being dangerous if you take your time, heed a couple of warnings, and do it properly.

I just want to be sure that everyone is as completely informed as possible when deciding how to proceed.

DeVS · June 16, 2006, 12:09:32 PM

I agree with most of what your saying. I bricked my Lite, Socket bricked his Lite MANY people have bricked there Lite by doing it the "right" way. Sure many people have done it succesfully but alot have done it properly and ended up with a brick too. Like I said right now you have a greater chance of bricking your Lite trying to flash then runing games or homebrew. Could that change in the future, no one can tell, but I highly doubt we ever see a sudden massive surge of bricker code flooding the scene. Back when it was out in the wild how many people actualy got hit with it, MAYBE 10? The bricker is like the bird flu,lol, everyone hears about it but rarely/never gets affected by it.

darkuni · June 16, 2006, 12:27:16 PM

Heh .. yeah ... I was one of the 10 - so I guess I'm the inverse of you; I never want to hear about someone else getting bricked by malware.

Either way you go - the DS kicks ass ... on THAT point, I'm sure we ALL agree

DeVS · June 16, 2006, 12:36:25 PM

Ya and if I hadn't bricked my Lite I probably wouldnt be so bitter about flashme,lol. If I do ever do it again, im soldering that mofo first.

Madrigal · June 16, 2006, 03:15:47 PM

Quote from: "DeVS"I doubt we the an all of a sudden attck of bricker code. I mean whens the last time anyone even seen it? Theres programs to detect it in games and if you get your homebrew from respectable sites you have little to worry about. Besides I would venture to say more people were using a Superpass/Passkey before then flahsme me anyways. I think u have a greater risk of bricking your DS Lite trying to flash it then you do getting the bricker code in a game or homebrew.

Yeah, that's exatcly what I was saying in another thread. The risk of a bricker virus is much, much, much lower than flashing the Lite. Way more people have got a bricked DS from trying to flash than that bricker. If you take some simple precautions such as only downloading homebrew from reputable sites, and not being the first to download an app (let a several people test it first), the risk of getting bricked from homebrew is almost non-existant. The same can't be said about flashing your Lite. It seems like 1 out of every 10 or so people are bricking it (probably a lot less than that, but there have been a ton of bricked Lites on various forums).

darkuni · June 16, 2006, 05:05:39 PM

Well, happy people don't post - so naturally we'll always hear more about how many problems there vice people saying "Hey, I was successful!".

teknicz · June 20, 2006, 05:53:04 PM

Hey, I was successful.

Jinnai · June 20, 2006, 06:31:49 PM

Quote from: "darkuni"As I mentioned in another post (worth mentioning here) is that security is only a matter of numbers. When 1000 people used Firefox, security issues were low. When 10,000,000 people started using Firefox, we get WEEKLY security issues with it. It is the same reason that hackers target larger products than smaller ones; it is about the numbers.

I'll grant you - the risk is low; now. But how many people here are ACTUALLY looking to run "legitimate" homebrew and not "p1r4t3d D5 r0mz0rs"? I mean the only place to get those things are grey sources like torrents, newsgroups, and other breeding grounds for malware. If the DS gets popular enough, this stuff will mal-out; after all, the original bricker was slanted to make people buy Neo cards (sickening to be honest with you). You don't believe this could happen again?

I think you're using flawed logic here.

You're assuming that everyone who gets a DSL will attempt to use flashcarts. The numbers are clearly there that what we do here is a minority. Many people don't even know you can bypass the security code on a DS, let alone attempt to do it.

A better analogy would be the number of people who use firefox and then download the developer tools for it to make their own extensions.

KujaDS · June 20, 2006, 10:13:20 PM

Quote from: "DeVS"Ya and if I hadn't bricked my Lite I probably wouldnt be so bitter about flashme,lol. If I do ever do it again, im soldering that mofo first.

That sucks DeVs. I guess it's like playing the lottery if you decide to proceed with flashing the DSLite.

I just sucessfully flashed my 3rd which is mine (2 other were friends) DS Lite today. I've read about after flashing two DSLite is that once you put the small screwdriver (tipped with aluminum foil) to short the SL1 it powers off, so I wasn't suprised because that's what happened.

Today for my DS, I discovered something different, however instead of flipping it over to stick the screwdriver in, I just had it ready in the hole and then stuck it in without flipping it over. It didn't power off and made 1%-100% fast.