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[dreamalittledream]

I've been searching all around to figure this out and always hate being the one asking a n00b question.

I've narrowed down my buy to the Supercard SD or the Supercard Lite. I traded a gba game for a friend's passcard, and I already own a 1GB SD card. So I was thinking it would be best to buy the Supercard SD because it will be much cheaper only having to buy the flash cart since I already have a passcard/flash memory.

Using Supercard SD will I have lag on games? (FFIII, Castlevania, etc.)
If so, which games will I experience it in?

(Really n00b question) Is the nds compatibility for sd and lite the same/ how is it different?

I just want lag/worry-free games and would hate to buy the SD, then a week later go buy SCL.

[onekelly]

dreamalittledream, welcome SCdev!

I own both and use a sandisk ultra II 1gig in both. It is said that you need a faster SD card for the supercard SD to minimize the slowdown in menus and opening vids with the games you suggested. I can say that with animal crossing in menu is a little slower on the SC SD, but I hardly notice, like a second more.

The NDS compatibility are the same for the SD and SClite.

Here is some info FifthE1ement's Complete Guide to Flashcarts and Homebrew on the Nintendo DS!

and FifthE1ement's SuperCard Guide!

somewhere on this site and gbatemp is a listing of SD speeds to games. maybe someone can find it and post the info (i have once but it was a while ago.)

[onekelly]

Found my old posting of it
Here is some info totally stolen from fifthe1ement  Review - SuperCard Lite at gbatemp.net

Memory:

SanDisk 1GB microSD:
Spec. Speeds �" Read = 60X (9MB/sec) �" Write = 12X (1.8MB/sec)
HD Tach Speeds �" Read = 61X (9.3MB/sec) �" Write = 16X (2.4MB/sec) �" Access Time = 1.1m/s

SanDisk Ultra II 1GB microSD:
Spec. Speeds - Read = 66X (10MB/sec) �" Write = 60X (9MB/sec)
HD Tach Speeds �" Read = 73X (11.1MB/sec) �" Write = 67X (10.2MB/sec) �" Access Time = 1.0m/s

ATP ProMax 2GB miniSD:
Spec. Speeds �" Read = 150X (22.5MB/sec) �" Write = 100X (15MB/sec)
HD Tach Speeds �" Read = 170X (25.7MB/sec) �" Write = 113X (17.1MB/sec) �" Access Time = 1.0m/s

SanDisk 2GB miniSD:
Spec. Speeds - Read = 60X (9MB/sec) �" Write = 12X (1.8MB/sec)
HD Tach Speeds - Read = 60X (9.1MB/sec) �" Write = 15X (2.2MB/sec) �" Access Time = 1.2m/s

*Spec. Speeds = Manufacturer Specification Speeds - HD Tach Speeds = HD Tach Speed Results

DS Game Performance:

For DS game performance I tested some of the most graphically intensive and most popular games on the DS. Animal Crossing: Wild World, Tony Hawk: American Sk8land, and Metroid Prime: Hunters were all big releases on the system and almost every DS owner owns at least one of the games.

Animal Crossing: Wild World*:

Opening Credits after pressing start as “Welcome” type comes on the screen:

SuperCard Lite with SanDisk 1GB microSD: 9/10
SuperCard Lite with SanDisk Ultra II 1GB microSD: 10/10
SuperCard miniSD with ATP ProMax 2GB miniSD: 6/10
SuperCard miniSD with SanDisk 2GB miniSD: 4/10
Real Game Cart: 10/10

Exiting a building while holding any direction on the digital pad:

SuperCard Lite with SanDisk 1GB microSD: 9/10
SuperCard Lite with SanDisk Ultra II 1GB microSD: 10/10
SuperCard miniSD with ATP ProMax 2GB miniSD: 7/10
SuperCard miniSD with SanDisk 2GB miniSD: 5/10
Real Game Cart: 10/10

Load times while entering and exiting buildings and menu system navigation:

SuperCard Lite with SanDisk 1GB microSD: 10/10
SuperCard Lite with SanDisk Ultra II 1GB microSD: 10/10
SuperCard miniSD with ATP ProMax 2GB miniSD: 9/10
SuperCard miniSD with SanDisk 2GB miniSD: 8/10
Real Game Cart: 10/10

Tony Hawk: American Sk8land:

Normal gameplay slowdown with music transitions:

SuperCard Lite with SanDisk 1GB microSD: 9/10
SuperCard Lite with SanDisk Ultra II 1GB microSD: 10/10
SuperCard miniSD with ATP ProMax 2GB miniSD: 9/10
SuperCard miniSD with SanDisk 2GB miniSD: 7/10

Menu system navigation and load times:

SuperCard Lite with SanDisk 1GB microSD: 10/10
SuperCard Lite with SanDisk Ultra II 1GB microSD: 10/10
SuperCard miniSD with ATP ProMax 2GB miniSD: 9/10
SuperCard miniSD with SanDisk 2GB miniSD: 7/10

Metroid Prime: Hunters*:

Fast free-look (moving the screen around rapidly):

SuperCard Lite with SanDisk 1GB microSD: 10/10
SuperCard Lite with SanDisk Ultra II 1GB microSD: 10/10
SuperCard miniSD with ATP ProMax 2GB miniSD: 9/10
SuperCard miniSD with SanDisk 2GB miniSD: 7/10
Real Game Cart: 10/10

Multiple player battle in “Large” maps with high visibility and weapons fire:

SuperCard Lite with SanDisk 1GB microSD: 9/10
SuperCard Lite with SanDisk Ultra II 1GB microSD: 9/10
SuperCard miniSD with ATP ProMax 2GB miniSD: 8/10
SuperCard miniSD with SanDisk 2GB miniSD: 7/10
Real Game Cart: 9/10

Menu system navigation and load times:

SuperCard Lite with SanDisk 1GB microSD: 10/10
SuperCard Lite with SanDisk Ultra II 1GB microSD: 10/10
SuperCard miniSD with ATP ProMax 2GB miniSD: 8/10
SuperCard miniSD with SanDisk 2GB miniSD: 7/10
Real Game Cart: 10/10

Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow Introduction Video:

SuperCard Lite with SanDisk 1GB microSD: 9/10
SuperCard Lite with SanDisk Ultra II 1GB microSD: 10/10
SuperCard miniSD with ATP ProMax 2GB miniSD: 7/10
SuperCard miniSD with SanDisk 2GB miniSD: 3/10

GBA Game Performance:

For GBA game performance I tested the games that are most know for their slowdown problems on the SuperCard products. Super Mario Advance 3: Yoshi's Island, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, and Metroid Fusion are all big releases that seem to have slowdown issues with SuperCard products in the past.

Mario Advance 3: Yoshi's Island*:

SuperCard Lite with SanDisk 1GB microSD: 9/10
SuperCard Lite with SanDisk Ultra II 1GB microSD: 9/10
SuperCard miniSD with ATP ProMax 2GB miniSD: 7/10
SuperCard miniSD with SanDisk 2GB miniSD: 7/10


Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga*:

SuperCard Lite with SanDisk 1GB microSD: 9/10
SuperCard Lite with SanDisk Ultra II 1GB microSD: 9/10
SuperCard miniSD with ATP ProMax 2GB miniSD: 7/10
SuperCard miniSD with SanDisk 2GB miniSD: 7/10

Metroid Fusion:

SuperCard Lite with SanDisk 1GB microSD: 10/10
SuperCard Lite with SanDisk Ultra II 1GB microSD: 10/10
SuperCard miniSD with ATP ProMax 2GB miniSD: 9/10
SuperCard miniSD with SanDisk 2GB miniSD: 9/10

[dreamalittledream]

Thank you (AND FifthE1ement for the guide) for such a quick reply! I'm so happy with this site & being able to get out with a cheaper deal so I can use that money towards my Wii !

Thanks again, and you'll definately see me around everyday once I get my SC !