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[SolidSnake]

now the console manufacturers (nintendo and sony) have a perfect excuse to stomp out homebrew. Doesn't this "prove" what sony was saying from the beginning about the PSP? That their anti-homebrew firmware upgrades were for the protection of the user...

when they said that, I thought, "what garbage"... but now, they have a valid argument, thanks to idiots in the PSP and NDS homebrew scene who think it's funny to brick people's machines

i Thought THE SAME THING! And you know, the nintendo has the $$power$$ to close everything in the homebrew scene..

Think this way: If you want to piracy, you will have to buy a DS anyway.. but probably nobody will buy a DS and a supercard to play atari port games..
So, piracy still give money to nintendo.. homebrew?? sometimes...

[Mithos]

And, btw, people WITHOUT flashme cant get "fucked" by this little thing right?

Everyone that can run homebrew on their DS can get "fucked" by this. People with FlashME already installed on their DS:es can recover, people without FlashME installed have a bricked DS, that needs soldering and stuff to get firmware back on.

[pg65]

another good reason to use flashme

[eumel45]

People with FlashME already installed on their DS:es can recover

They can only recover the DS with a new Flashcard, the old Supercard would still stays a worthless brick, so while FlashME keeps the damage smaller, it doesn't prevent it or makes it fully recoverable.

[NT]

Well I went ahead and did the flashme incase I ever run accross this thing and I got to say I feel silly for not doing flashme alooong time ago. It makes the DS look much cleaner by not having that big ass thing sticking out the top of the ds,lol.

FlashME is truly awesome.  It's more secure than the original DS firmware (the important part is write-protected so you can recover from a bad flash) and it gets rid of the stupid health warning.

[stupid2ass]

And, btw, people WITHOUT flashme cant get "fucked" by this little thing right?

Everyone that can run homebrew on their DS can get "fucked" by this. People with FlashME already installed on their DS:es can recover, people without FlashME installed have a bricked DS, that needs soldering and stuff to get firmware back on.

Actually I don't see how you can brick your DS if you don't flashme.  The DS *needs* to have that L1 shorted or else you can't even put in another firmware.  It's the flashme'd DS that they're targetting as once  you've flashme'd it, you can upgrade w/o needing that bridge shorted.

[socket]

I disagree.

If youre using a passme and you get bricked, you're screwed... if you flashme'd then you can recover... I think everyone is targeted, but those with  flashme are lucky.

[eumel45]

The DS *needs* to have that L1 shorted or else you can't even put in another firmware.

It looks like you can overwrite critical parts of the firmware without L1 shorted, you need to short it only to overwrite it completly, but that doesn't seem to be necesarry to render a DS unusable. From what I heard the bricked DSs arn't completly dead, Wifi might still be working, but normal booting won't (correct me if I am wrong).

It's the flashme'd DS that they're targetting as once  you've flashme'd it

Flashme seems to protect the first 512bytes or so of the Flash against overwriting which are enough to get the DS bootet and reflashed again.

[eumel45]

I think everyone is targeted, but those with  flashme are lucky.

I wouldn't call a destroyed SuperCard 'lucky', r0mloader doesn't only overwrite the DS flash but also the Supercard one from what I have heard.

[socket]

I think everyone is targeted, but those with  flashme are lucky.

I wouldn't call a destroyed SuperCard 'lucky', r0mloader doesn't only overwrite the DS flash but also the Supercard one from what I have heard.

Well if you want to be like that about it, you're right.  But my initial post is still fine.  I'd rather have a (more easily) salvagable DS and a destroyed SC than a completely ruined DS and SC.

[skydra]

Someone needs to make something that can scan roms for it! that would rock!

[look]

http://darkfader.net/

There is info on here that shows you how to search a rom for the bricker code.

Also DF says he's now trying to write a fixer program.

Bit of an oddball. Obviously a clever guy but seems to be a bit of a schizo.

[Robotochan]

This guy doesn't deserve to be recognised in the DS Community anymore, he has created something that will never go away just because "he wanted to". Honestly from now on people are going to be overly skeptic about downloading new things for their DS than before and we'll probably have to wait until someone tries the program and posts it on a reliable website. God I hate people like him...

[BLYND]

Think this way: If you want to piracy, you will have to buy a DS anyway.. but probably nobody will buy a DS and a supercard to play atari port games..
So, piracy still give money to nintendo.. homebrew?? sometimes...

If the DS is like most consoles Nintendo will actually be losing money on it - most companies rely on game sales for income e.g's include Sega... Even Sony made a big loss this year!

[socket]

Yeah, generally the companies don't make too much or even take a hit on the cost of the console to give it a more attractive selling price and try to make it up with software sales.