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Supercard & Homebrew

Started by h8uthemost, May 16, 2007, 11:10:33 PM

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h8uthemost

Hey guys,

I"m just starting to really get into hombrew. I always thought that most of it was well, crap. That's why I've never really messed with any of it. But, I was very wrong. I"m finding a lot of great games out there, and a couple really cool apps.

So, I guess the hombrew compatibility on the G6 Lite isn't all that great. I've tried to get a few things to work on it, but only a couple games have actually worked. Samething with the R4. All the apps I"ve tried on it has worked. But some of the games I've tried, haven't. And yes, I know about the DLDI patching. But a lot of the games don't support it.

And the DS-Linker doesn't have hombrew write support, yet. So it's really not even worth trying on right now.

So, I've never been into the Supercard brand. But...I've heard that it's a great cart to have, to run homebrew on. That it has the highest compatibility.  So, should I get one of those purple Supercards, just to put homebrew on? Does basically every game and every app work on them?

And if so, exactly which Supercard should I get? I know there's a few different versions. But since I've never owned one, I'm not sure which one would be the best. I have a DS Lite by the way.

So, any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
Setup:
White Lite
Slot 1: CycloDSx2GB Kingston Japan, Supercard DSOne+1GB Nokia(J), 16G G6 DS Real, 16G DS-Linker, R4x1GB Kingston(J),
Slot 2: G6 Lite
PSP: 3.40 OE-A

dantheman

I have had very few issues with my Supercard miniSD with getting homebrew to run.  

Exactly what games are you trying to run?  If they access the filesystem, there might be a slight problem in that a few months ago newer Supercards started coming out with different internal hardware workings (or perhaps it's just the media cards, either way) which means that programs like NES DS might not be able to access the filesystem.  Personally I have one miniSD card that works fine with programs like NES DS and one that refuses to work with them.  Your experiences may vary of course.  However, if the program runs on its own without filesystem access, there's a good chance you'll be able to boot it correctly on a Supercard, either through the Supercard menu or through Moonshell.

As for the different versions, it's all a matter of size.  As you already have an R4, it might be best for you to get the Supercard Lite, which uses microSD cards and sits flush within a DS Lite.  Larger versions are the miniSD (fits flush within DS Phat), SD (sticks out a bit), and CF (sticks out a lot).  There are a few really old programs that only run on the CF version, but I haven't come across enough of them to warrant buying one specifically for that purpose.  I prefer to have the product sit flush in my Phat.

Just avoid the Rumble series at all costs.  It has no GBA compatibility for one thing, and the lack of RAM makes it useless for DSLinux, combined with the fact that it doesn't boot many newer applications without jumping through hoops with various booter programs.

PharaohsVizier

I have had nothing but good experiences with my Supercard MiniSD, but I think dantheman probably knows what he is talking about.  The M3 can run homebrew pretty well too, but I don't understand why you would not just stick with the R4?  The R4 is way capable of handling most homebrew with the DLDI driver...

h8uthemost

Wow, thank you guys.

Games like Pure, R-Type Clone, Gioioso!, LumiDS, and a few others I can't think of right now, I haven't been able to get to run on my G6 Lite, or my R4.

I tried running them with and without DLDI patch. I mean, I am completely new to homebrew, so I could just be setting them up wrong or something. I don't know.

I'll keep fiddling around with a few on the R4. Because I've heard quite a bit on what Pharaoh pointed out, that the R4 can run most homebrew. But, if I still end up getting the same results, then I"ll go with the Supercard Lite, like dan recommended.

Or...should I just get an SC DSONE?  I'm wanting to get another slot 1. And if that runs homebrew just as well as it's slot 2 counterparts, then maybe I should just go with that.

Anyways, thanks again for the help.

EDIT: Is it even possible to run LumiDS on the R4? The games homepage, only lists like three carts that the game is compatible with.
Setup:
White Lite
Slot 1: CycloDSx2GB Kingston Japan, Supercard DSOne+1GB Nokia(J), 16G G6 DS Real, 16G DS-Linker, R4x1GB Kingston(J),
Slot 2: G6 Lite
PSP: 3.40 OE-A

Hi

I think that if the scdsone isn't better than the R4 it's defenately second best.

It can run homebrew pretty well. It will even run non-DIDI homebrew as long as the homebrew doesn't use FAT drivers.

For example, the scdsone (remember, I'm talking with no DIDI) will run the actual game Tales of Daugur (great HB game) perfect. However, when you try to load a saved game, the nds will freeze. This is because (I'm assuming) tales of Daugur tries to access the filesystem.

So, you'll be able to run pretty much all the simplier homebrew games. And for those that need a filesystem, (games or apps) just use DIDI. It works fine. Just as SC slot-2 was known as the best commercial-rom-running card for homebrew before DIDI, I'd say SCOne is a good choice for HB now to.

Also, it's not slot-1, but GBAMP CF is probably the ultimate homebrew running card. While it's terrible at running commercial roms, the GBAMP can run pretty much any peace of homebrew you throw at it, WITH OR WITHOUT DIDI! You shouln't need to use DIDI at all, most homebrew runns on the gbamp natevly. So, just like how you can get clean commercial rom support on slot-1 cards, you can get clean HB rom support on the gbamp.
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dantheman

Looking at LumiDS, it appears that it was only coded with CF support in mind, so it's unlikely to work on any slot-2 device that doesn't use CF.  However, if you get a slot-2 card with extra RAM, you can use it to run the GBA title "Luminesweeper" by Tepples.  It's a fairly accurate Lumines clone, and with one version you can even edit in your own music, though it's somewhat difficult to do.