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Has the DS:One's in-game speed improved with SP2, etc.????

Started by Hanafuda, June 12, 2007, 03:14:49 PM

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Hanafuda

I was pretty active here until around the first of the year. Got a DS:One when they launched (red PCB) and was so excited. Dropped in my 1GB Sandisk Ultra from my SCLite, and ... hey wtf?!? slowdowns! especially in my favorite games! Animal Crossing was the worst, but not the only. The SCLite ran AC:WW, Castlevania, and others I can't remember MUCH better than the DS:One with the same exact microSD card. So, I put the DS:One away. Months ago. My SCLite is still doin' the job.

So, if I load up this latest firmware for the DS:One, would things be any different? A Sandisk Ultra is not a slow card, so I considered this a problem for Supercard to fix. Have they?

dai_uk

I have the same card and no problems with a japanese 1gb kingston card
Damo

Hanafuda

yeah, I know about the Made in Japan Kingston's. Thing is, I shouldn't have to buy another microSD card. The SCLite outperforms the DS:One with my microSD card, so which one do you think I'm gonna use?
The DS:One cannot communicate well with one of the best cards on the market (Sandisk Ultra), but the SCLite can. Who should be fixing that problem?? That's why I'm asking .. have they?


anyway, where would I be able to buy a Japanese Kingston and know that's what I'm getting?

dai_uk

I live in UK and bought one from ebuyer for under £8 inc p+p
Damo

tuta

personally I think sp2(red pcb) seems much better than the other updates for speed

In my case I used 1gb kingston japan previously POR crashed for me frequently whenever I press start and back now it doesnt  even with frequent  pressing from menu to ingame back and forth with the latest update.

Its great and I love it now only to w8 for my 3in1 expansion pack

Dudu.exe

Sandisk is a slow flash memory and its cause slowdown.. not supercard!!!


Tests

Transflash Card   Firmware | Notes | Patch mode |   Rating (out of 10)


Dane-Electric 1GB (DCD-MSD1024)   1.0/0120   All games I tested on this card ran fine. Didn't notice any erroneous behavior.   Disabled   8.5


Garmin 128MB (010-10683-01)   1.0/0120   The card didn't do very well, was somewhat slow with backup I tested. Was not thoroughly tested.   Disabled   6.5


Kingston 1GB (Japan)   1.0/0120   Elite Beat Agents runs perfectly aswell as Castlevania POR. Yet to find a broken game with this card. A pick.   Disabled   9


Kingston 1GB* (Taiwan)   
1.0/0120   Many games won't boot (double white screens). Didn't undergo thorough testing. It is too slow!! SC DS will not support it!   Disabled   7


Kingston 512MB* (Japan)   1.0/0120   Eite Beat Agents runs perfect aswell as Castlevania POR. This card caused me no problem at all: A pick.   Disabled   9


PNY 1GB   1.0/0120   Castlevania POR Intro runs perfect, froze ingame randomly a few times . Aside from it, other games run normally.   Disabled   7.5


PQI 128MB   1.0/0120   Untested   _______   _______


Sandisk 512MB (Normal).   1.0/0120   Laggy, Castlevania POR Intro, game suffers from serious issues, stuttering & crashes . Longer load times compared to other mediums & slow gaming experience.   Disabled   4.5


Sandisk 1GB (Normal)   1.0/0120   Castlevania POR Intro runs perfect game suffers from hiccups, crashes. Other games run fine though laggy.   
Disabled   4.5


Sandisk 2GB (Normal)   1.0/0120   Castlevania POR Intro runs perfect game suffers from hiccups at teleporters, opening menus. Other games run fine.   Disabled   4.5


Sandisk Ultra II 1GB   1.0/0120   Castlevania POR Intro runs perfect game suffers from hiccups.   Disabled   5.5


Ridata 1GB   1.0/0120   Untested   _______   _______
Transcend 80x 512MB (133268-1340)   1.0/0120   Castlevania POR runs but freezes randomly in-game. Other games mostly work fine.Overall, it's not fast enough but does its job quite well.Decent.    Disabled   6.5


Toshiba 1GB* (Japan) - (SD-C01G)   1.0/0120   All games I tested on this card ran admirably well. Sustains the comparison to G6 Lite in term of speed: A pick.   Disabled   9


Toshiba 1GB (Taiwan)   1.0/0120   Castlevania POR runs with problems : crashes when opening menus, all other games work fine.   Disabled   7



*  Toshiba and Kingston ara basically the same flash memory

Hanafuda

Quote from: "Dudu.exe"Sandisk is a slow flash memory and its cause slowdown.. not supercard!!!



I disagree. It doesn't matter whether Sandisk Ultra is slow compared to others or not. Perhaps it is slower. But that doesn't change the fact that on the SCLite, the Sandisk Ultra runs games like Animal Crossing and Castlevania (i.e. the video) with no slowdowns. Zero. And what's even better, the SCLite can even do this with a standard Sandisk 1GB microSD.

If the SCLite can run games at 100% speed on Sandisk Ultra and Sandisk regular, then why can't the DS:One do the same? Either it is slower than the SCLite, or it has a problem communicating with the Sandisk which should be fixed. The SCLite proves its not Sandisk's problem.

jmr

my first card i had for my scdsone would only get 2 on the auto speed tester but formating it to FAT with 64k cluster & raising the speed setting to 16 improved Animal Crossing and Castlevania so it worked perfectly
but got a toshiba 1GB (j) now & it auto sets to 30

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Hi

Quote from: "Hanafuda"
Quote from: "Dudu.exe"Sandisk is a slow flash memory and its cause slowdown.. not supercard!!!



I disagree. It doesn't matter whether Sandisk Ultra is slow compared to others or not. Perhaps it is slower. But that doesn't change the fact that on the SCLite, the Sandisk Ultra runs games like Animal Crossing and Castlevania (i.e. the video) with no slowdowns. Zero. And what's even better, the SCLite can even do this with a standard Sandisk 1GB microSD.

If the SCLite can run games at 100% speed on Sandisk Ultra and Sandisk regular, then why can't the DS:One do the same? Either it is slower than the SCLite, or it has a problem communicating with the Sandisk which should be fixed. The SCLite proves its not Sandisk's problem.

Maybe becausen the SClite has extra ram. Just a guess, as is many of the things I say.
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meangreenie

yes, the sc-lite most likely has extra chips and gizmos to make even shitey mem cards fast... the scds being a slot1 cart probably didn't have enough room for the extra hardware needed at the time of manufacturer to what chips were available at the time to be able to do the same
Yes I'm mad

Hanafuda

Quote from: "meangreenie"yes, the sc-lite most likely has extra chips and gizmos to make even shitey mem cards fast... the scds being a slot1 cart probably didn't have enough room for the extra hardware needed at the time of manufacturer to what chips were available at the time to be able to do the same

i.e., like I said, the DS:One is slower than the SCLite.

meangreenie

Quote from: "Hanafuda"
Quote from: "meangreenie"yes, the sc-lite most likely has extra chips and gizmos to make even shitey mem cards fast... the scds being a slot1 cart probably didn't have enough room for the extra hardware needed at the time of manufacturer to what chips were available at the time to be able to do the same

i.e., like I said, the DS:One is slower than the SCLite.


i dunno, is a sc-ds slower than a sc-lite when a fast decent memory card is used ???   they both run POR fine  ??  

maybe a truer statement would be ..." the DS:One is slower than the SCLite  when a slow memory card is used"
Yes I'm mad

biz387

I think the crux of the whole matter is slot 1 cards need fast memory end of, it is not a hardware problem as slowdowns are evident in all slot 1 cards even the r4 when inferior memory is used.  So your choices are get good memory or live with slowdowns.... $13 delivered for a jap kingston 1gb not really gonna break many banks!!

Dudu.exe

I use a Kingston japan ( very cheap, about $15, in Brazil  ) and it plays all games perfectly .. no never got a problem with Castlevania