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[tennisgy]

SC in game book makes SC above every card.  I can now play japanese RPGs

[Doggy124]

Can SCDS1 play every rom (with Kingston(J) ) smooth?

- I don't mind if I have to try every save size before it work, If it can still support all new game (it may take only 5 minute to find the correct save size)

I like that SCDS can set sive size manualy, maybe the problem with R4 on worm2 cause by save size - people can't choose it, if the firmware data is incorrect then you have to wait until they release a new firmware to fix it.
,if it is SCDS even the SC team make a wrong savesize database, you can still try to find the correct size by tour self, Right?

[meangreenie]

Yes with a Japanese made mem card all games play smooth.

As for save sizes, theres just about every option you would care for.

Auto... means it sets save sizes from an updateble save info file, but if a new rom comes out that is not in the info file it will auto set it to 512k to make sure it works.

Manual.. errr, means manual

The reason the R4 can't deal with Worms2 OW is not because of the save file, but because the R4 can't cope with the new arm7.bin that is appearing in many new roms now... all other major slot-1's had no trouble with this new file.
I find it quite strange that there is no R4 update to fix this yet, as even all the older generation major slot-2 carts fixed the problem in their patching software within 2 days.

[anuarbin]

maybe the game developer do a research and found out that r4 was the most popular.
so they specificly make game that wont work with it?
just my theory

[NDS-Fan]

Scds1 worked perfectly with new roms if you disabled the patch, most of the people having trouble to save games are using slot 2 cards
Also there were a bug in the earliest versions of Sp5, but it was fixed in a day

- If you disable the patch, you can't use cheats at SCDS1.
- The most NDS save troubles at the Supercard Forum are with SCDS1, not with Slot-2 cards.
- There's NO message about the SP5 bugfix, not even the date is changed at the Download page.
  You can guess if you have downloaded the same version or if there was a bugfix in the meantime.

...
Plus with the new direct save to memory card system makes it stand out again, this save system has always been the best and most reliable, ...
edit.. please don't miss understand me, I think the R4 is a great product and maybe the more suitable for noobs, it's just I think the Scds-1 is better for features and the long run.

- direct save to memory card is standard at R4DS so it's nothing 'new'
- R4 is working without problems since I bought it.
  Having a SCDS1 now is like having a green Banana - it has to ripen before it's good.

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The reason the R4 can't deal with Worms2 OW is not because of the save file, but because the R4 can't cope with the new arm7.bin that is appearing in many new roms now... all other major slot-1's had no trouble with this new file.
I find it quite strange that there is no R4 update to fix this yet, as even all the older generation major slot-2 carts fixed the problem in their patching software within 2 days.

- I can play WOW2 at my R4DS with the ARM7-fix.
- Supercard Slot-2 cards have NO fix for WOW2, they also need the ARM7-fix (they aren't major slot-2 cards???)

Additionally: R4DS can use Moonshell v1.71, SCDS1 only v1.41

[dantheman]

Additionally: R4DS can use Moonshell v1.71, SCDS1 only v1.41

I'm pretty sure it's 1.6, as it can play DPG2 files which were first created with the DPGTools that came with 1.6.  Regardless, you can also just install 1.71 onto your card and launch it like any other homebrew file, making it function similar to the R4 in that regard.

[anuarbin]

but with arm fix, i cannot add my opponent to my rival list.
i dunno if i am the only one with the problem.the trimmed original worked.

[pmc]

Supercard DS one has better future game compatibility!

yeah sure it requires a japanese mem card for good performance, but with a jap card like kingston it performs super!

on R4 u need to do stupid ARM fixes, just tried DeVS's favorite game (dk jungle climber) on SCDS1 and it worked straight away

on R4 zelda didnt work so they needed a firmware update just to get it working, on SCDS1 it workded straight away

now that SCDS1 saves to mem card as well, ill say its as same as R4 in all aspects, if not better if u take future games compatibility into consideration..

and just like dantheman stated, u can launch moonshell 1.71 just like any other homebrew file on SCDS1 same as R4,  the 1.41 moonshell they use is just the loader, which will probably get updated in the future anyways..

[Doggy124]

How many games that R4 can't play?(please tell the game name)

for me, I think SCDS is more compatibility in play game (if have right microSD)
but R4 looks more compatibility with homebrew (at least, EZ 3in1 easier to use with R4)

but I think i will get R4.

Oh man...this thursday i will have a hard decision between these two. 

[NDS-Fan]

Also the SCDS-1 is firmware upgradeable, so is sure to get even better in the future, perhaps even sdhc support ?? (just look how SC-Slot2's are supported today).. the R4 is almost a 'set-in-stone' product.

edit.. .... it's just I think the Scds-1 is better for features and the long run.

As you can see, the 'old' SCDS1 is also a 'set-in-stone' product. If you want to use SDHC cards, you have to buy the new SCDS1-SDHC 

[Dudu.exe]

i used to like SCDS1but now i going to stick with R4.
Maybe it is the most popular now and if there is a homebrew, it will be for R4 first.

After DLDI, homebrew entered in a new AGE.. there is now better suport for one card or another.. just cards with DLDI and cards without DLDI ...

[kkan]

R4 ... KERNEL 1.12 introduced moonshell 1.71 as part of the kernel

[Tman175]

Hmm alright so maybe im not qualified to speak on behalf of the supercard ds one vs r4, but i have a supercard dsone and a M3ds simply so i guess im close enough 

I am happy with my supercard ds one. I have the first batch of SCDS's , i got it when it first came out on kicktrading. For the last several months ive been very happy with it. Although i admit i struggled at first with the high speed microsd support (i had a really cheap one from a factory store XD) i am now running a 2gig kingston and i dont really have any complaints. As for saving? meh cmon for me the only game i had problems saving in was pokemon because i kept messing around with pokesave and making my sav file 256kb instead of 512kb =P

As for my M3 i like how it is very simplistic and easy to use... maybe thats why i passed it to my sister and chose the scdsone instead. Overall nothing to complain about really... i prefer the nice look of the icons for the scdsone menu and i dont mind the 1-2 second lag time it takes to boot up with compared to the M3.

Im no hater or anything but NDS-Fan should change his name to DieHardR4-Fan. I guess its imposible to change some people's views on things *sigh. I just wanted to say that: oki you would enable patch so you can run cheats.. toggling it by turning patcher on and off is no problem in my view. SP5 runs without a problem for me, if somebody could tell me what this BIG BUG is then i'd appreciate it, please dont deny problems with any flashcart.. each one has its flaws in its timeline stop hiding it, and finally please keep this to SCDSONE vs R4, not SC products vs R4... i think we can all agree the sc-slot2s had their fair share of problems. Lastly, SCdsone's are black.. or white i guess not, green bananas 

The Bottom Line?
If you're a newbie and you're reading this and you dont wanna involve yourself in the act of playing around with your flashcart, then just get the R4, put on games, and go play =P I believe that with the supercarddsone's added functions the future looks rather bright after the new SDHC release. The R4 is only widely successful now because it started off great and was simple to use for the average gamer. But people still stand behind supercard because it was a pioneer and continues to make good products too. A flash cart is a flash cart, can we move on now? 

Just my 2 cents.

[kkan]

Will add a note here that R4 is a very good SLOT 1 to cut your SLOT 1 teeth on!

As its a pretty much an UP & GO CARD....

Whereas the SCDS1 is out there for those who want that little bit extra with the menus etc and get a little more technical with things... and the way you can adjust and configure a whole heap of different elements/functions to suit your games/memcard etc

[Tman175]

kkan pretty much sums up my super long passage XD