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WiFi for DS homebrew

Started by keen31, October 24, 2005, 06:28:46 PM

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keen31

http://www.akkit.org/dswifi/

once he is finished, the possibilites are endless... personally Id like to see some tunneling software and an IRC client would be rad... but certainly thats just the tip of the iceberg.

i believe he is favored to win this contest as well:
http://sc.tri-bit.com/dswfb

either way, it looks to be very promising.

mat

Yeah, I can't wait to see wi-fi homebrew apps in the near future! :D
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Unfortunately, unlike the ball, people do not bounce.

satanduck

WOW!

with the SuperCard SD/CF R/W interface code out, WiFi stack on its way... dsLinux is gonna kick ass!
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Larson" from "Havenile" of Zip code "0816-6534-7899".
Mario Kart DS : 519750-640786 (Larson)
Tony Hawk : 137499-350825 (Larson)

PM me if you added me!

memyselfandi

i can't wait for a web browser
 am The Best and you Know it!!!

Koji

Quote from: "memyselfandi"i can't wait for a web browser

I really wouldn't expect to much from a browser... again the DS only has 4 megs of ram... that means the instant an image is scrolled off the screen, it'll have to be redownloaded and put back into ram...

Unless someone can figure out a way to use the 32MB of ram on the super card... which I guess is a possibility.

Slippy

4 megs is plenty for a normal page (like this one).  Don't expect a cache of old pages though... that'd be stretching it...
S Setup:
1st Gen DS
Flashme 5 w/ Superpass and Supercard SD
Limited edition Miyamoto signed orange DS Skin
Limited edition Kirby! pink stylus
Now Playing: Nintendogs w/ Jack Russel Terrier

keen31

indeed, and considering it will be a homebrew app it will be up to the programmer to decide if and how to store things.

however, you have to wonder how it would interpolate both graphics and pages, considering the resolution... most pictures(all content for that matter) might be downsized so greatly they would be unintelligible. personally i think a browser would be rad, but i think it will be a novelty more than anything by way of display restrictions.

still, there are plenty of options and variations that could be done to make a wide range of internet programs functional and useful... id REALLY like to see a DS version of ventrilo, but i dont believe the source is available for that  :?

Slippy

Quote from: "keen31"indeed, and considering it will be a homebrew app it will be up to the programmer to decide if and how to store things.

however, you have to wonder how it would interpolate both graphics and pages, considering the resolution... most pictures(all content for that matter) might be downsized so greatly they would be unintelligible. personally i think a browser would be rad, but i think it will be a novelty more than anything by way of display restrictions.

still, there are plenty of options and variations that could be done to make a wide range of internet programs functional and useful... id REALLY like to see a DS version of ventrilo, but i dont believe the source is available for that  :?

Well... it COULD be a text only browser.  It'd still be useful for stuff like news and e-mail, but another option would be a stylus tap to expand pics.  Lots of possibilities....
S Setup:
1st Gen DS
Flashme 5 w/ Superpass and Supercard SD
Limited edition Miyamoto signed orange DS Skin
Limited edition Kirby! pink stylus
Now Playing: Nintendogs w/ Jack Russel Terrier

754boy

Quote from: "Koji"
Quote from: "memyselfandi"i can't wait for a web browser

I really wouldn't expect to much from a browser... again the DS only has 4 megs of ram... that means the instant an image is scrolled off the screen, it'll have to be redownloaded and put back into ram...

Unless someone can figure out a way to use the 32MB of ram on the super card... which I guess is a possibility.

That's not much of a problem now since the Supercard's I/O source code has been released. Then that shit can just be written to the CF or SD card  :razz:

Koji

Quote from: "754boy"
Quote from: "Koji"
Quote from: "memyselfandi"i can't wait for a web browser

I really wouldn't expect to much from a browser... again the DS only has 4 megs of ram... that means the instant an image is scrolled off the screen, it'll have to be redownloaded and put back into ram...

Unless someone can figure out a way to use the 32MB of ram on the super card... which I guess is a possibility.

That's not much of a problem now since the Supercard's I/O source code has been released. Then that shit can just be written to the CF or SD card  :razz:

Yeah, the only problem is that'd be slow as freaking hell. SD/CF read/write speed is slow... and if everything was stored there in cache, it'd be like running from a page file all the time on your PC. You could do it, but it'd be frustrating and slow.

MisterJP

If i'm not mistaken, there is two kind of memory in the supercard :
- The CF/SD Card, which is slow
- A 32MB memory chips, which still need to be tested, but is surely faster than the SD/CF card : this is where the roms used to be loaded by the supercard firmware. This extra memory could be used as a an extension to the 4MB of memory the ds has, even if there is a speed impact.

JP.

keen31

yeah, i think there could be ways to make it funcational, and im sure a programmer that is capable of writing a browser would/should understand what he/she is working with well enough to efficiently use what they have.

Koji

The thing to remember though, is that people that work on a browser may not have a super card, or may not have any desire to program with the super card in mind. There are tons of other backup devices that work on the NDS, and I daresay we probably aren't in the majority.

memyselfandi

I was thinking of maybe it could access the cf/sd card and could have infinite(not really) space, and the other competitors are the gbamp and the M3 :idea:
 am The Best and you Know it!!!

keen31

i believe that dslinux is being developed on GBAMP and then they port to function on M3 and Supercard... so i would imagine that, depending on who develops it, something similar may be the case. obviously though it may be backup device specific like koji mentioned.