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A couple of newcomer questions

Started by tennisgy, August 21, 2006, 06:09:48 PM

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tennisgy

Woo! finally,  Ive had an SC Mini laying around for a few days and it finally looks like Ill get a MiniSD and a superkey in a couple days!  Ive already started patching games.

1.  When I patch a game with 2.55c i get two files: nds.dsq and .nds.  Do I put both of these on the card and just play?  I thought there was supposed to be a .sav file.

2.I heard you didnt have to patch homebrew on a certain device.  Is that the SC?

3. If you could would you please post a percent on how much of the GBA games work?

Im really looking forward to getting the last two Items!
this is the SD I ordered
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820183011

and I think Ill order my superkey from RHS in an hour or so.(the checkout button isnt working for me.  Niether is the My account button)
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PharaohsVizier

When you patch a game, you should get a .sav file.  Right click the rom and go to properties, make sure saver patch or something like that is on SD.  And for options, make sure you put enable saver patch.

You don't patch homebrew, some homebrew programs come prepatched, if not, download moonshell, and in the .zip that moonshell comes in, there should be something in the etc folder called DSBuild.  Put the homebrew into the same folder as that and drag that rom into DSBuild, and a new file should appear.

I'm not really sure how many GBA games work, heck I don't even play that many, but so far I haven't had any problems, except saving is kind of a pain in the butt.  Go check the compatibility section, and also, I posted this question a while ago.  Most people agree that it isn't that bad, its just really annoying because a couple really good games don't work.

Good luck with the SC

tennisgy

so I should get 3 files when i Patch
thats weird im not doing anything wrong
Thanks for the answers. :)

I did both of what you said but on the list it says|save|xxx|xxx|
Mario kart..............................................................|no...|xxx|xxx|
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bitblt

Quote from: "tennisgy"1.  When I patch a game with 2.55c i get two files: nds.dsq and .nds.  Do I put both of these on the card and just play?  I thought there was supposed to be a .sav file.

Only copy the *.dsq and *.sav files to your miniSD, not the *.nds file.  I'm not sure why the patcher software didn't create *.sav files for you.  Did you double click on the ROMs in the patcher software and select save to SD patch?

Quote from: "tennisgy"
2.I heard you didnt have to patch homebrew on a certain device.  Is that the SC?

You don't patch homebrew with the supercard patcher software. Homebrew is patched by pre-pending ndsloader.bin (or use DSBuild like PharaohsVizier suggested). You will need to rename pre-patched *.ds.gba files to *.ds.nds to work with supercard.
http://scdev.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3405

Quote from: "tennisgy"
3. If you could would you please post a percent on how much of the GBA games work?

I'm not exactly sure, say ~95%.  BTW the supercard patcher software will output 3 files for GBA games.

Quote from: "tennisgy"so I should get 3 files when i Patch
thats weird im not doing anything wrong.

When you patch a *.nds file the patcher software should output two new files, *.dsq and *.sav.  If you don't get these two files then something is wrong.

Did you download the latest patcher software?  Did you select the save to SD option? Windows might not display the *.sav extension depending on your folder options.

PharaohsVizier

Are you sure its creating an .nds file or are you just seeing the .nds file that you were using to patch?

I know that seems kinda obvious, but then I made that mistake once...  lol

tennisgy

Quote from: "PharaohsVizier"Are you sure its creating an .nds file or are you just seeing the .nds file that you were using to patch?

I know that seems kinda obvious, but then I made that mistake once...  lol
nope the patched ones go to a completely diff. folder so i wouldnt be seing it
and I downloaded latest patcher(2.55c right?) so...

Then again maybe the .nds output is the .sav because its always 256kb.  I also selected what you two said to do.  still, under the save column it says no.

Guess Ill work around with it some more
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AnalogMan

Make sure in Windows Explorer (My Computer) You go to Tools>Folder Options. In the View tab make sure the checkbox label 'Hide extensions for known filetypes' is UNCHECKED. What you're getting is actually a xxxxxxxx.nds.dsq file and a xxxxxxxxx.nds.sav file. Even if you can't see it (for some reason) just copy them anyway, the Supercard will recognize it (and yes, the 256kb file is the save).

For homebrew, it comes in three types. .NDS | .NDS.GBA | .SC.NDS
You want the SC.NDS version if it's available, if not, then rename the .NDS.GBA to .NDS. If THAT isn't available there are many tools that auto convert it for you, already mentioned in this thread.

I have yet to see a GBA game NOT work. Some games have what are called slow down, which causes them to get slow and laggy (like a bad interent connection) during fast paced scene (example, Mariocart). Sometimes it's not a problem, other times it makes the game unplayable. You will get three files with the GBA game. .GBA | .SAV | .SCI
GBA is the game, SAV is the save (smaller than the NDS save) and SCI is the file that stores your Real-Time save (L+R+SEL+B). You do not need to copy this file, but then you lose your Real-Time Save ability.


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Name: Sark
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tennisgy

Thanks it was checked,  im going to see if it did anything


Yes!! it recognizes it as NDS.sav now!! Thx

I doubt ill be able to wait 3-4 more days let alone 2
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bitblt

Quote from: "bitblt"Windows might not display the *.sav extension depending on your folder options.

Quote from: "AnalogMan"Make sure in Windows Explorer (My Computer) You go to Tools>Folder Options. In the View tab make sure the checkbox label 'Hide extensions for known filetypes' is UNCHECKED. What you're getting is actually a xxxxxxxx.nds.dsq file and a xxxxxxxxx.nds.sav file. Even if you can't see it (for some reason) just copy them anyway, the Supercard will recognize it (and yes, the 256kb file is the save).

Thank you for explaining this a little better than I did AnalogMan.

tennisgy

just thought of a question I missed.
Does the enable trim rom function take out the cutscenes and stuff or does it just take out the extra 0's and 1's
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bitblt

The trim function will remove unused data (filler) near the end of a game ROM.  This can significantly reduce the size of ROMS on your SD.  The trim function doesn't remove anything from the actual game experience.

tennisgy

Awesome I heard that some trimmers will remove cutsenes like the intro on Castlevania
another ?

I heard that if the size of the folders are over 128MB the SC wont recognize....so you have to create many folders
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tennisgy

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sneef

there are ways to trim the rom content, such as removing movies, etc.. but the "trim rom" option in supercard's patching software does exactly what bitblt said.