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Advice for new superpass owners!

Started by mgarrine, November 28, 2005, 03:37:52 AM

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mgarrine

Dear all, i want to pass you an important advice and reminder for who does use

SUPERPASS

Please be careful when exctracting this because as other guys i have got my ds slot damaged, and now i can't use more DS ORIGINAL games, becuase when i inseet them in the slot they are pulled out ...

The piece of plastic that was blocking the DS cartridge from being pulled out now it has been broken....

(however if anyone has been able to set this problem please let me know)
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Tbone182a

did you use the 'click' system?
A Superpass is pretty thick, but that does not prevent you from using the click-system. Once inserting the superpass, it 'clicks' into place just like any other normal DS cart would. To remove the superpass, do not directly pull it out. Doing so would harm the mechanism to eject (and hold) games.

Instead, pull the Superpass out for about 3 millimeters (that really NOT much). This can be done without using any force. From there, push the superpass back in and then and only then remove it from your DS.

It's simple logic really.

cory1492

I pulled my magic key 3 out yesterday directly, it did not damage the plastic that held the cart in (it does have some spring to it to avoid such damage) - although if the superpass slots as tight as I have heard, pulling it directly out will likely wreck something...

have you inspected the inside of the DS closely to be certain that the pin is not just stuck in the down position, making it impossible to put the DS game in correctly? (a small scredriver can fix that, just push the mechanism in so it unlatches as if you had pushed the DS game in)

eureka

Quote from: "Tbone182a"did you use the 'click' system?
A Superpass is pretty thick, but that does not prevent you from using the click-system. Once inserting the superpass, it 'clicks' into place just like any other normal DS cart would. To remove the superpass, do not directly pull it out. Doing so would harm the mechanism to eject (and hold) games.

Instead, pull the Superpass out for about 3 millimeters (that really NOT much). This can be done without using any force. From there, push the superpass back in and then and only then remove it from your DS.

It's simple logic really.

This is the right way (and only way) to pull out Supercard without damage your DS.

petecchia

Quote from: "mgarrine"The piece of plastic that was blocking the DS cartridge from being pulled out now it has been broken....

(however if anyone has been able to set this problem please let me know)
I did the same on my DS (just pulled out my SuperPass "crunch!") and shortly after DS carts kept 'popping out of the DS slot.

I fixed it but first I have a a couple of questions for you.

1) Are absolutely 100% that you broke a piece of plastic in the DS, I mean have you actually seena a piece of plastic fall out of your DS cart slot because mine did not, I just heard the crunch noise.

2) Have you got a Tri-Wing screwdriver (used to open NDS/GBA and some mobile phones) because you'll have to take off the back cover and you need one of these screwdrivers.

If anybody else is interested I will make a walkthrough with Pics on how I cured my DS from the ejecting cart syndrome, took me about five minutes.

Here is where I bought my tri-wing screwdriver from US$ 4.99 + s/h, it is not expensive and took about nine days to get to me in the United Kingdom.
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-1e-15-screwdriver-70-1fe-43-8s.html

I am now using FlashMe v5 because I was afraid of me messing up my DS by just pulling out my SuperPass again.
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mgarrine

Dear Petecchia, thanks for your help...

as you have written
I also guessed that the piece devoted to stop the cart from pulling out has been not "broken" but "damaged"in some way that i do not understand..please explain to us how we can fix uo the problem...

hope you can help us ...thanks
a step by step guide could be a reasure for the whole scene since lots of guys suffer of this sindrome

(are yuou italian?)
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petecchia

I or the hosts of this post are not to be held liable for any damage made to you and/or your DS.  If you do not agree please do not go any further.

Please read all the following a couple of times before going ahead and taking apart your DS and I hope this post is of some help to anyone.

YOU WILL NEED a Tri-Wing Screwdriver to take the back cover of your NDS off, if you do not have one, get one, don't try and make do without this tool, it won't work and if you shear the heads of the NDS screws you won't be able to open it any more.

Since I'm at work and do not have access to all my gear this will be a quickie version of how I fixed my DS cart popping syndrome.

Obviously make sure it is not plugged in and charging, we do not want any electricity.

First of all you need to take out the DS cart from the slot. if you've had to jam it in there with a piece of card like I did, carefully slide the card out with the tip of a small knife or flat-headed screwdriver, the cart should now either pop out or be able to be ejected out.

Also please take out any GBA cards from the GBA slot if you have one in there.

Find a clean and tidy place to work on a table preferably and lay a dry and clean table cloth to work on, this saves scratches on your console and furniture plus helps little screws stay in one place if you don't want to keep them on a little dishy.

Unscrew the Battery Cover compartment and take the battery out, this requires a very small screwdriver kinda like the ones used for spectacles, whatever you use be careful and don't mess up because later you'll need to screw the cover back on.

Unscrew all the screws from the underneath of the DS, there are four of them visible plus another one or two under the Battery.

Before you go any further please go and earth yourself, touch some exposed metal that is going into a wall like the piping of your central heating, just do your best to discharge any static electricity that you may be carrying and do not touch any chips or the circuitboard if you can help it.

Now with all the screws taken out please pull the back cover of your NDS off, if it doesn't budge don't force it and check again if you missed any screws (I did the first time).

Now you should have the exposed back of your NDS showing, put the plastic back cover to one side.

Please look at this picture of the DS cart slot metal shielding : http://www.flickr.com/photos/28873905@N00/67883602/

I have circled in yellow the point of interest which I found had to do with the locking mechanism.

I tested it by keeping my finger down on the point I circled in yellow and inserted a DS cart, to my surprise it locked+stayed in and ejected normally when I pushed the card back in as you normally do when everything is fine with your DS cart locking.

OK if your DS still pops out the DS cart even if you keep your finger on the beforementioned "point of interest" please put the DS cover back on and screw back together as it looks like your DS is damaged in a way which is different to the way mine was.

*THE IMPORTANT BIT*
Take the black DS back cover and look at the protruding plastic part which is obviously designed to push down on the "point of interest" when the cover is fitted back on the DS, take some sticky tape and stick a few SMALL pieces on it so that it is now thicker and protrudes out more.

Put the cover back on your DS and hold it all together in one hand (don't screw it back together yet), with your other hand try inserting a DS cart in the DS slot, mine stayed it and behaved as it did before any damage.

Screw everything back together, put battery back, screw battery compartment back on and enjoy.

I hope this will be of some help to anyone, I will make a better one with more pictures soon.

All the best!

P.S. Yes I am Italian.
nimal Crossing: 2105-2495-9040 Name: Max Town: Pisa
Mario Kart DS: 382323-521347 Name: Max2
Tetris DS: 748499-940981 Name: Max2
Metroid Prime Hunters: 1031-5064-9387 Name: Max2
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mgarrine

Thanks for your outstanding job!
So the thing to do are 2:
1) Push on the yellow cirlced point
2) Stick a bit of scoth tape on the cover point wich regard the blocking mechanism

Please admins we should put this one in tutorials section, in my huMble op...don't you think?



#Italian:
Grazie..sei stato gentilissimo.sono certo che tutta la comunità di scdev apprezzerà il tuo  lavoro...grazie ancora... :D , anche io sono al lavoro appena torno a casa vedo di mettermi alla ricerca di un screwdriver adatto altimenti mi tocca aspettare ...

ho visto il tri-wing screwdriver da Playasia, conOsci qualke negozio on-nline italiano che lo venda? in modo da poter risparmiare tempo.
E poi soo unìaltra cosa: riasumendo le cose da fare sono due:
1) Premere sul punto evidenziato in giallo
2) Aggiungere un po' di scotch nella parte della cover che riguarda il meccanismo di bloccaggio è ok?

ciao! 8)
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petecchia

Quote from: "mgarrine"anche io sono al lavoro appena torno a casa vedo di mettermi alla ricerca di un screwdriver adatto altimenti mi tocca aspettare ...

ho visto il tri-wing screwdriver da Playasia, conOsci qualke negozio on-nline italiano che lo venda? in modo da poter risparmiare tempo.
E poi soo unìaltra cosa: riasumendo le cose da fare sono due:
1) Premere sul punto evidenziato in giallo
2) Aggiungere un po' di scotch nella parte della cover che riguarda il meccanismo di bloccaggio è ok?

ciao! 8)

Di Niente,

Le viti usate dal Nintendo sono fatte cosi' per fottersi quando uno usa un cacciavite sbagliato...guarda davvero eh? ordina il cacciavite e paga un po' di piu' per fartelo arrivare con il corriere in un paio di giorni, visto che non pesa tanto il costo di spedizione non dovrebbe essere troppo (si spera).

Di siti Italiani non ne so niente perche purtroppo vivo a Londra.

I punti 1) e 2) sono giusti, la ho fatta un po' lunga cosi' che anche gente che non ha mai smontato niente la sapra' seguire.

Metti Flashme, ti salvera' il DS se viene "Mattonato".

Ciao
nimal Crossing: 2105-2495-9040 Name: Max Town: Pisa
Mario Kart DS: 382323-521347 Name: Max2
Tetris DS: 748499-940981 Name: Max2
Metroid Prime Hunters: 1031-5064-9387 Name: Max2
GMT 0 (UK)

davhuit

For people who bought their screwdriver, are you sure it's the good one ?

Cuz I just spent 10$ on a ebay's screwdriver (gba/gbc/ds) to open the battery lid and install flashme, but the screwdriver isn't good -.-

It's okay for the screwdriver of the DS, but not for the one of the battery lid which is different. (I also tested some other things but I can't open it).

someone_Else

For people with more tools than money, there is an alternative to an overpriced tri-wing bit/driver.

If you have some of those little mini screwdriver kits, similar to the 'eyeglass' kits, you can use a file, grinder, or rotary tool to grind off one side of a regular mini phillips screwdriver (+), so that it has three tips. The angles look wrong, but it works perfectly, assuming you used a phillips screwdriver of the right size.  I've used this on other gameboys, but not a DS, so be aware.

MrMagicHat

Quote from: "davhuit"For people who bought their screwdriver, are you sure it's the good one ?

Cuz I just spent 10$ on a ebay's screwdriver (gba/gbc/ds) to open the battery lid and install flashme, but the screwdriver isn't good -.-

It's okay for the screwdriver of the DS, but not for the one of the battery lid which is different. (I also tested some other things but I can't open it).
The battery lid's screw is just a small philips. Just use a jewler's screwdriver, or any small philips.