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Broke supercard and ds

Started by coolbgdog, June 04, 2006, 08:34:04 PM

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coolbgdog

:( .  Today I come home to use my ds and notice my cf card was kinda weird and I noticed the pins were bent.  My ds then couldn't turn on and didn't work no more.  I tried teh supercard with another ds and it didn't work either.  I now have two short circuited ds's.  I then out of frustration try opening the supercard and I broke it and now the pins were all bent and one pin came out.  I just gave up and left it alone and threw the broken pieces of the case away.  I know about the fuse on the ds but I need to buy a screwdrier to open the ds up and fix the fuse AND a new supercard. :(
DS-Supercard cf 1gig cf card !

meangreenie

Downer man... I once had a similar experience repairing a PC I built for someone. When trying to figure out what was wrong I tried the PSU of the broken PC on mine as it appeared to be working, but I was wrong and watched in horrow as smoke billowed out of my brand new motherboard.

The total cost to fix was horrendous as the rougue PSU had blown every damn component on both PC's :(   .. I now never build PC's for anyone else.


How did the pins get bent ?   .. child forcing the CF card in the wrong way round ? I've been there too.
Yes I'm mad

coolbgdog

I don't know how it got bent. Prolly from someone else forcing it in wrong.  I have little cousins that play my ds and I don't know maybe it was them.  Any link on where I can get another supercard cf and a tri wing screwdriver to fix the ds?  My supercard is broken to nothing and can't be fixed and I can't be bothered.  Its my fault I broke open the supercard.
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Madrigal

The exact same thing just happened to me. The DS is easy enough to replace (yay Wallmart), but I broke the Supercard case beyond repair trying to get the PCB out. On the bright side it gives me an excuse to finally try the M3...
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DS Lite (US) Polar White - M3 Lite - Superkey - Sandisk MicroSD 1GB

coolbgdog

Im just going to buy another Supercard and open teh ds up and try fixing it with soldering a small wire on the fuse as said on one of these threads.
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Madrigal

Yeah, I saw that. Couldn't be bothered :P. Wallmart is so easy to return things to anyway, may as well save myself the trouble and just get a new DS.
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DS Lite (US) Polar White - M3 Lite - Superkey - Sandisk MicroSD 1GB

bitblt

Quote from: "coolbgdog"Im just going to buy another Supercard and open teh ds up and try fixing it with soldering a small wire on the fuse as said on one of these threads.

Same thing happened to my friends DS . . .

DS short circuit + blown fuse != "Bricker"
http://www.scdev.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3744&highlight=fuse


Quote from: "Madrigal"Yeah, I saw that. Couldn't be bothered :P. Wallmart is so easy to return things to anyway, may as well save myself the trouble and just get a new DS.

In clear conscience do you think Nintendo should pay the price for our mistakes to gain free games?  Hey if you can get Wally Mart to exchange your DS more power to you, but it is technically fraudulent activity.

Jinnai

Quote from: "bitblt"In clear conscience do you think Nintendo should pay the price for our mistakes to gain free games?  Hey if you can get Wally Mart to exchange your DS more power to you, but it is technically fraudulent activity.
Wonder if it would work for people who accidently brick their DS Lite when flashing it?

Madrigal

Quote from: "bitblt"

In clear conscience do you think Nintendo should pay the price for our mistakes to gain free games?  Hey if you can get Wally Mart to exchange your DS more power to you, but it is technically fraudulent activity.
Using a flashcart is technically fraudulent activity too. The majority of discussion on this forum is about warez. If I was concerned about the morality of this kind of thing, I wouldn't be here...

That said, Wallmart and Nintendo budget for these kinds of things. They will just write it off and it won't cost them a cent. This is Wallmart we're talking about, not some little mom and pop store. I've worked at these kinds of stores before. They get items returned all the time, and they don't care. I've even seen them just throw stuff in the garbage without even testing it. If they were really concerned about returns, don't you think they would test them, or at least send them to be refurbished?

I do totally see your point though, it's not the nicest thing to do. But it doesn't bether me (I know it should).

QuoteWonder if it would work for people who accidently brick their DS Lite when flashing it?
That's exactly what I will do if I brick mine :lol: . Things are very easy to return at these big box stores.
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DS Lite (US) Polar White - M3 Lite - Superkey - Sandisk MicroSD 1GB

bitblt

Quote from: "Madrigal"Using a flashcart is technically fraudulent activity too . . .

fraudulent:
Deliberately misleading; deceptive. Syn. dishonest.

bypass:
A means of circumvention

Quote from: "Madrigal"They will just write it off and it won't cost them a cent.

Yes and Santa will fly them all back to the North Pole so little elves can refurbish them.   :lol:

darkuni

Let's be totally real here.  

I love hearing people talk about how unethical it is to return a bricked DS to Walmart when they were normally flashing it to rob dozens of companies by playing warez on their DS.  

For those with guilty consciences, allow me to paint you a picture.  This is no means justification for theft - but by altering your DS you're already breaking the DMCA law here in the USA - and using a Supercard (doesn't matter if you own the card - you are NOT allowed 'archival backups' of firmware) - Walmart has been robbing us all for years.  Search the net for how Walmart sells lower quality merchandise as if it were the same quality of other stores (look up Levi's and Snapper mowers).  They HAPPILY take your cash for shoddy Levi's - how guilty are you taking back a DS?

Now, what do you think that return costs Walmart and Nintendo?  Employee salary (min wage) for 15 minutes processing the return, a few cents in postage back to their warehouse - then a few more cents back to Nintendo.  I imagine it takes a technician about 15 minutes to  shoot the problem and change out the bios you've bricked.  Then it goes to warranty returns where it gets shipped out to someone with a dead pixel or "legitimate" warranty problem.  That's one less NEW unit they have to replace.

So, what are we talking about - cost wise - to return a bricked DS to Walmart?  Couple bucks?  I promise you that ONE pair of lower quality Levi's has compensated Walmart.  Nintendo has a well-oiled machine to get that DS back into circulation - that's cost of doing business.

Food for thought.
hane R. Monroe,
Co-Host of Dual Screen Radio
My Hacking Page | My DS List

bitblt

Would you say the same thing on Dual Screen Radio? I think not. I enjoy your dual sided opinions.  :razz:

If for some strange reason the WalMart clerk checks the SN, and you can't outrun the security guard, then you have just been caught committing a felony.  (it could happen  :lol: )

Food for thought.

Madrigal

Quote from: "bitblt"Would you say the same thing on Dual Screen Radio? I think not. I enjoy your dual sided opinions.  :razz:

If for some strange reason the WalMart clerk checks the SN, and you can't outrun the security guard, then you have just been caught committing a felony.  (it could happen  :lol: )

Food for thought.
You have 650 posts on what is basically a DS warez site, and you are complaining to me about returning a product to Wallmart. Unbelievable.

Can you honestly tell me that you've never used your Supercard to run a single ROM? At the very least you've helped people get ROMs running on thier cards. Now I have nothing against you personally and I think your a helpful member here, but I don't get this "hollier than thou" additude, considering what the Supercard is used for and what kind of site this is. Simply by flashing your DS and using the Supercard, you are breaking the EUA with Nintendo and essentially committing a crime. So it's not like you are Mr. Squeaky Clean yourself.

I have no idea what you are going on about with the SN. It's not like I'm returning a counterfiet DS to Wallmart and I originally bought it at Wallmart anyway, so so what if they check the SN?
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DS Lite (US) Polar White - M3 Lite - Superkey - Sandisk MicroSD 1GB

bitblt

This is not a warez site.  How absurd.  I don't see a single link to ROMZ or copyright material.  I don't think I act "holier than thou", I just try to give good advice.  If you void your warranty and then return your DS, it's wrong.  A better solution would be to read these forums and understand what you are doing first.  If you fuck up, then fix it.  The DS light is very easy to fix, no soldering required.

darkuni

Quote from: "bitblt"Would you say the same thing on Dual Screen Radio? I think not. I enjoy your dual sided opinions.  :razz:

If for some strange reason the WalMart clerk checks the SN, and you can't outrun the security guard, then you have just been caught committing a felony.  (it could happen  :lol: )

Food for thought.

I've actually posted it on my own forums - we don't discuss legally gray stuff on the show to ensure Nintendo doesn't piss and moan at us. :)

Your point would be most valid if we were talking about Fry's or Best Buy where they have a habit of recording serial numbers on small priced items.

However - I assure you ... Wal-Mart doesn't record this information (not yet anyway) and even if they did;  playing stupid would easily get you out of the store :)  Seriously, I've seen people return merchandise Wal-Mart doesn't even CARRY, and leave with cash (don't ask me how - even I don't have that big of balls :) ).   The customer is always right at Wal-Mart.  Besides, have you SEEN the elderly they hire for security? I bet anyone here could outrun them!  LOL!

I wouldn't do this sort of thing to anyone - but Wal-Mart, sorry, just has it coming.  As for Nintendo, I own 5 Nintendo DSes, a GameCube, and 3 GBA SPs, and nearly 75 DS games alone.  They can foot the $1.25 to handle a warranty replacement of a bad flash :)  My conscience is clean.
hane R. Monroe,
Co-Host of Dual Screen Radio
My Hacking Page | My DS List