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[Nintendo-RaZoR]

Hey you all this is good forum I just joined
I had a question on what i should buy for my ds lite (black)
I need a flash card or only softwares and not for GBA games and thought that Ez4lite was cheap and good.
Today i went onto bamboogaming.com and saw that they were preordering the sclite rumble which was also cheap 4$ more than Ez4 lite so i thought it was no problem to pay $4 more or a rumble feature  :razz:  then i started looking at this forum and saw that some guy said sc were going to release a new sloot 1 device.
This got me thinking a lot now i need some suggestions on what i should get
Ez4 Lite Compact Or Sc lite rumble Or Slot 1 device
Thank you for reading.
Please vote and ALSO leave a Reply
Also im looking for a solution without the GBA support because i dont need it

[popinadam]

Well you have listed the Supercard Lite Rumble as a slot-1 device. It isn't. The only Slot-1 devices that are currently available and decent are DS-Link and DS-Xtreme.

I say get the Supercard Lite Rumble Slot-2 device. Cheap, great DS compatibility, fastest supercard to date, rumble (sigh), no gba support (double sigh). Should be right up your alley. Spend the extra 4 bucks in my opinion.

[jmr]

theres only two slot 1 card at the moment (i think) the DS-Link & the Ninjads
the DS-Xtreme is not out for a couple of weeks

i would try to hold out buying anything for a couple of weeks to wait & see some reviews of the DS-Xtreme

[Nintendo-RaZoR]

Do U think Ds Link is any good
Because the dsxtreme is really expensive

[rorix_bladewing5]

I don't think supercard has officially announced a slot 1 device yet.

[bitblt]

If you are only concerned about running DS games then DSLink is the clear choice. All of the latest ROMs have patched and run flawlessly. The DSLink user interface menu is very fast and much better looking than the Supercard menu. Even homebrew like VoiceChatClient and Moonshell work.  DSLink is the only current solution that supports a real rumble pack and the Opera RAM pack.  DSLink also supports FAT32.

Unfortunately homebrew that uses a FAT lib are currently "no go" (other than a special version of Moonshell for DSLink). If you are interested in the best overall compatibility for ROMs and homebrew then Supercard Lite Rumble is the best choice. Obviously both cards do not  support GBA.  

I wish DSLink (eDIY) would realize that holding back on delivering FAT drivers is going to kill them. Support for homebrew is essential IMHO.  Being the first to market is a tremendous advantage and they should monopolize on that now. I don't think many people are going to be interested in the DSLink+GBALink combo solution.

If DSLink (eDIY) could make a hook that would load NDS and homebrew from a supercard (or other) then they would have a winner, slam dunk. To clarify, the scenario I'm talking about would be letting the Suparcard boot, then have a hypothetical "dslinkhook.nds" transfer control back to the DSLink, giving the DSLink full access to flash media on both cards. I don't know if that is possible without making hardware changes?

[ImmortalNinja]

I agree that the DS-Link menu is prettier, but I dont think thats particularly important.
Both use the same basic and functional system to tapping up and down to get to your desired game and I dont pay much attention to it.
In my mind though the DS-Link loses out to the Supercard in terms of speed.
Every time you turn it on it does two things: Save the sav game of the game you were last playing and loads the UI.
The supercard jumps straight to the UI.
I'm not sure but the games also feel that they take longer to boot too (although this is just a perception thing).
The patcher is also not as versatile as the Supercard one. You have to have your transflash card plugged in as it patches and writes to the card directly. This means that you can only ever patch up to so many games in one go and then to have the patched version of the game on your HD you have to copy it over again.
It does however get plus points for being drag n drop and tells you what its doing while its working, both things the Supercard patcher sorely needs.
So overall I'm left with the feeling that there's more things keeping me from my gaming when I use the DS-Link.

Real Rumble pak support is overrated and I think the world in general is better off not using it, sorry Nintendo.

DSLink can link to the GBA slot as thats how it support GBA games through the GBA-Link so there is hope for supercard linkage.

Finally the DS-X is being release next week. I have mixed feeling about this. In theory it sounds uber sweet, but with only 512mb thats kinda limited.
I didnt think it would matter but after playing with the G6 Lite it is a very real limitation, espcially if the roms are to be played as is with no trimming.
Also I havent seen any details about how long it would take to transfer files over. Hopefully it will be quicker than the G6!

But at the end of the day I dont think it really makes a difference which card you end up buying. I dont think any particular card has a killer feature which makes it king. They all allow you to play the games (some sooner some later) so we're all winners

KK

[bitblt]

I agree that the DS-Link menu is prettier, but I dont think thats particularly important.

It's not that important, it's just some people complain about fancy GUIs being slow, and the DSLink menu is quite reponsive.

In my mind though the DS-Link loses out to the Supercard in terms of speed.

I agree, but the difference is about one second.

The patcher is also not as versatile as the Supercard one. You have to have your transflash card plugged in as it patches and writes to the card directly. This means that you can only ever patch up to so many games in one go and then to have the patched version of the game on your HD you have to copy it over again.

Wrong. You can specify any output directory on your harddrive.

But at the end of the day I dont think it really makes a difference which card you end up buying.

Don't forget about the homebrew FAT lib issue. Currently Supercard is superior for homebrew support.

Danny Phantom and March of the Minis ROMs did not require a new patcher update with DSLink.  In Clubhouse Games I can exit WiFi settings without getting white screens.

Until DSLink has better homebrew support Supercard still remains the best overall choice.

[Nintendo-RaZoR]

Do u really think the ds-link is good because its got lot of votes but if it cant play homebrew apps i dont think so i will want it
can some one please gove me a list of homebrews that work and dont work on both dslink and sclite rumble.

And how will I be able to put sotwares with the .ds.gba extension on to the supercard rumble
:|

thanks

[ratx]

Only FAT ( reads stuff off the memory card ) utilising homebrew doesn't work, although these days thats quite a lot of it. I have all of the cards in question and use my dslink most of all, but I tend to only use homebrew on a gbamp.  I think if homebrew is important to you but gba isn't you'd be best off with the supercard.

You can't run ds.gba files on any supercard strictly speaking, you have to run ds.gba files renamed to .nds.  So really you don't have anything to worry about there...

[Nintendo-RaZoR]

Only FAT ( reads stuff off the memory card ) utilising homebrew doesn't work, although these days thats quite a lot of it. I have all of the cards in question and use my dslink most of all, but I tend to only use homebrew on a gbamp.  I think if homebrew is important to you but gba isn't you'd be best off with the supercard.

You can't run ds.gba files on any supercard strictly speaking, you have to run ds.gba files renamed to .nds.  So really you don't have anything to worry about there...

thanks or the answer but wht homebrew doesnt work on dslink
and which has a greatersupport or ds games. (including the speed)

[ratx]

I did already answer that, any homebrew that uses FAT. It will be easier if you research the homebrew that you're interested in and see if it uses "chrism's fat library" - if so it won't work. Failing that post here and someone might help. I've not really done any speed tests sorry.

[ImmortalNinja]

Wrong. You can specify any output directory on your harddrive.

Well dang I never knew that, thanks for the info.

Come one Supercard team, how hard can it be to add drag and drop?

KK

[Nintendo-RaZoR]

Wrong. You can specify any output directory on your harddrive.

Well dang I never knew that, thanks for the info.

Come one Supercard team, how hard can it be to add drag and drop?

KK

Its actually the same thing only diff is that its faster to drag and drop but practically its the same thing coz even if u got threw my computer u have to browse through the files and reach ur file and select them and drag it while on supercard software u have to browse through a smaller window thats the only diff

And now i feel sc will be better because if slot 1 devices dont support homebrew theen im surelynot gettin it
coz i wanted to buy a flash cart because o home brew
thanks or your help but please continue Replying and votin

[bitblt]

Well dang I never knew that, thanks for the info.

No problem.  Don't feel bad because I was trying to figure out how to hack Supercard save files to work with DSLink before ratx told me about the DSLink import option.  :oops: