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Slot-1 SUPERCARD NEWS!!

Started by 754boy, December 12, 2006, 02:48:27 AM

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onekelly

Sink, never knew that, thanks. I guess that is one way to go about it. I cannot remember for sure (foggy memory), but i thought they did put out the info on the rumble prior to shipping.

sinkhead

Yeah, I've not been around too long but for all I've heard the SC team tend to release info when the product is released. I hope there is some more information on this soon?

- Sam

PS: Do the SuperCard team supply review samples

Altor

Quote from: "SuperCardStore"If the wholesale price from SuperCard for 50 Slot-1s is $32.99 and it retails  for $34.99, the reseller has to lay out thousands of dollars cash to SuperCard, provide the infrastructure (a lab, techies, computers, phones, landlines, pickers and packers etc), marketing, pre and post sales support and warranty - all for 6% gross profit - net profit could well be negative.

The effect of that is that Slot-1s would be available cheaply from 'unofficial' resellers who then drop the product in favour of the many more profitable lines out there.  Only buy from well-established, 'official' resellers (see the list on the SuperCard site)!

I have customers who have been buying from me for years, and continue to do so - I spend money giving them as good a service as I can (a two year full replacement warranty service, for instance).  That is my business style.  

I also would like to earn a reasonable amount from this business - I am not a charity...

It would be interesting to see what the various resellers sell it for and how long the cheapest last...

What do you think is a reasonable markup above $32.99?

:|

Uh... I want to just post my thoughts on this.

50x supercard at $32.99 costs $1649.50 (not "thousands of dollars").  If you sell those for $34.99, they will give you a gross of $1749.50, meaning you make $100.

However, this is a fallacy of logic, or something to that effect.  If you're planning to sell supercards ("Supercardstore"???), you're going to sell more than 50.  You're going to buy more than 50.  And, no offense intended if this is not the case, but you're likely going to overcharge on shipping, as most e-businesses do.  I do it, everyone else on ebay does it, it's life.

So, we can safely assume that you're going to buy at least 100, given that you are the "supercard store", and this is therefore likely to be your main product.

This reduces your cost per unit to $29.99.  If you now sell them for $34.99, you are making a profit of $5 plus shipping overcharge, let's assume the shipping is a minimum of $2.50 over cost.  That's not unreasonable, really, since there is such a thing as a handling fee.

So, your price per unit sold is $37.49.  Your total gross is $3,749.00  Your total net is $750, less whatever shipping costs Romman might ask for - not bad for licking envelopes and driving to the post office.

(He asked... so no need to delete for "cock blocking" as you call it)

Heck, at that price, I might just become a distributor!  I'll buy for $29.99 sell for $32.49, have a small handling fee of 50 cents... At the end of the day, I'm still making $300 for a few hours of work!  That's certainly more than I normally make for a day of work...  Heck, I'll reduce my price further.  $30.99.  I'm making $100 for a day's work.   I'll have to see if anyone's interested.

Hi

oops, sorry didn't see the part about the optional soft-reset. I wonder it I will be able to use this optional patching software to make homebrew reset to the main menu.
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bitblt

This is exciting news indeed.  I'm very pleased that Rommans team is entering the slot1 arena, if not a little late.  Let's hope they have taken the time to develop an excellent product, not something rushed to market with bugs like AceKard and X9.

So, I guess my DSLink is going to become the "red headed step child" in my Supercard collection (hehe). I believe Rommans team is going to deliver the best slot1 solution yet.  Personaly, I would pay $50-$60 to pre-order one today.
Quote from: "Koji"It would be nice if it also supports reading/playing from slot 2, that is to say for existing users they'd be able to load up software from a supercard, since the majority of homebrew are made with the use of the GBA slot in mind. If not, I guess it'd be simple enough to just switch them out.
I believe it will interact with the GBA slot based on what romman said here . . .
Quote from: "romman"Append function 1:
- Can inter-play with GBA slot. Support SC Rumble Series as a rumble PAK.
I know my DSLink can interact with a Supercard in the GBA slot, and vice versa, including accessing the other cards file system.  I'm going to guess that a slot 1 Supercard would do the same but with even better integration.

onekelly

To access the slot 2 device, would the DS need to be flashed or would this act as a passme?

754boy

Quote from: "onekelly"To access the slot 2 device, would the DS need to be flashed or would this act as a passme?

This would act as a passme  8)

bitblt

Quote from: "onekelly"To access the slot 2 device, would the DS need to be flashed or would this act as a passme?
I can access my Supercard with both my DSLink (needs flashme) and with my DS-X (no pass).  On the Supercard side I can only access my DSLink.

onekelly

just curious, my dslite is not flashed yet (still under 90 day warranty), and may or may not flash as there has not been a need yet. knock on wood.

Hork

Quote from: "onekelly"just curious, my dslite is not flashed yet (still under 90 day warranty), and may or may not flash as there has not been a need yet. knock on wood.

I can barely understand what you're saying, but I assume you're asking if you'll need to flash your DS to use the slot 1 device.

No, you won't.

SuperCardStore

Quote from: "Altor"
Quote from: "SuperCardStore"If the wholesale price from SuperCard for 50 Slot-1s is $32.99 and it retails  for $34.99, the reseller has to lay out thousands of dollars cash to SuperCard, provide the infrastructure (a lab, techies, computers, phones, landlines, pickers and packers etc), marketing, pre and post sales support and warranty - all for 6% gross profit - net profit could well be negative.

The effect of that is that Slot-1s would be available cheaply from 'unofficial' resellers who then drop the product in favour of the many more profitable lines out there.  Only buy from well-established, 'official' resellers (see the list on the SuperCard site)!

I have customers who have been buying from me for years, and continue to do so - I spend money giving them as good a service as I can (a two year full replacement warranty service, for instance).  That is my business style.  

I also would like to earn a reasonable amount from this business - I am not a charity...

It would be interesting to see what the various resellers sell it for and how long the cheapest last...

What do you think is a reasonable markup above $32.99?

:|

Uh... I want to just post my thoughts on this.

50x supercard at $32.99 costs $1649.50 (not "thousands of dollars").  If you sell those for $34.99, they will give you a gross of $1749.50, meaning you make $100.

However, this is a fallacy of logic, or something to that effect.  If you're planning to sell supercards ("Supercardstore"???), you're going to sell more than 50.  You're going to buy more than 50.  And, no offense intended if this is not the case, but you're likely going to overcharge on shipping, as most e-businesses do.  I do it, everyone else on ebay does it, it's life.

So, we can safely assume that you're going to buy at least 100, given that you are the "supercard store", and this is therefore likely to be your main product.

This reduces your cost per unit to $29.99.  If you now sell them for $34.99, you are making a profit of $5 plus shipping overcharge, let's assume the shipping is a minimum of $2.50 over cost.  That's not unreasonable, really, since there is such a thing as a handling fee.

So, your price per unit sold is $37.49.  Your total gross is $3,749.00  Your total net is $750, less whatever shipping costs Romman might ask for - not bad for licking envelopes and driving to the post office.

(He asked... so no need to delete for "cock blocking" as you call it)

Heck, at that price, I might just become a distributor!  I'll buy for $29.99 sell for $32.49, have a small handling fee of 50 cents... At the end of the day, I'm still making $300 for a few hours of work!  That's certainly more than I normally make for a day of work...  Heck, I'll reduce my price further.  $30.99.  I'm making $100 for a day's work.   I'll have to see if anyone's interested.

I have been selling SuperCards for nearly two years now.  I must be doing something wrong as I am not making the easy money you write about.   The idea that I could make $100 just for licking some stamps and driving to the post office is a great one but I have been unable to do it in reality.  Maybe I was wrong to give up my day job!

I do not think that any of the official resellers are making the amount of money you imagine.  I also reckon that, if they were, they'd have retired by now!  Also, it must be hard for you to buy stuff if you think that margins are as high as you estimate - you seem to be under the illusion that the resellers are money-grabbing bandits when in fact they are as valuable a part of the scene as everyone else!  There is so much unregulated competition that prices are as low as they can go.

I resell SuperCards because I like doing it - it makes me a little cash, sure, but a whole bunch of other products could make me even more!  The challenge is to scale the business so as to become the first SuperCard millionaire...
Regards
Chris

Gleasonator

About the SuperCard Slot-1 interacting with Slot-2's, what's the deal with FlashMe? Since FlashMe puts GBA to priority, will we need to have an unflashed DS for this to work? (If this has already been posted, I misunderstood, so sorry if that's the case. :))
 like cream soda...


bitblt

Quote from: "Gleasonator"About the SuperCard Slot-1 interacting with Slot-2's, what's the deal with FlashMe? Since FlashMe puts GBA to priority, will we need to have an unflashed DS for this to work? (If this has already been posted, I misunderstood, so sorry if that's the case. :))
With Supercard+DSLink I had to modify "unpatch" the supercard firmware to prevent flashme from auto booting the Supercard in slot 2.
With DS-X I can just press SELECT to bypass slot 2 because DS-X is actually loaded from the Nintendo DS menu like a real game.
Because the new slot 1 Supercard is a "no pass" device then it doesn't matter if flashme is installed or not.

Gleasonator

OK. Thanks for clearing that up. :D
 like cream soda...


onekelly

Quote from: "Hork"
Quote from: "onekelly"just curious, my dslite is not flashed yet (still under 90 day warranty), and may or may not flash as there has not been a need yet. knock on wood.

I can barely understand what you're saying, but I assume you're asking if you'll need to flash your DS to use the slot 1 device.

No, you won't.

What the hell was i typing, must be the new crack patch i tried out!  :lol:  Yeah, i don't know what i was thinking. I know i had a question i wanted answered. oh yeah, this may have been it, but has been answered already above and was wondering if it would act as a nopass. That is what you get when you talk on the phone and try typing at the same time.

sorry for the incoherent rambling earlier. :oops: