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[AOforever1]

With all of the slot-1 flash devices coming out and already, I had to sit down and think for a bit on which one to get. However, in the end. It became clear to me that no matter what happens. Supercard and M3 will be the major brands in the end. Why? Simple.

One, those two companies have been around and been the most popular. (First come first serve in the market - Another pair of Microsoft companies)
Two, Homerbewers are not going to spend time porting to 10 different devices. (With the exception of some like the DS-Xtreme)

And this market will end before anybody can even compete via prices or extreme quality.
So in short. Supercard and M3 take the majority.

[Joey Ravn]

I would have included a "neutral" option like "Yes, they'll still dominate the market, but there will be a few individual companies that will rank their products among the best ones".
Things like R4 (for what Sinkhead is telling us, of course, I couldn't even access it's webpage), EZ Flash V and a couple more are pretty well rated nowadays.

... only time will tell, I guess.

[Zygarth]

The way it's looking now Supercard is going to drop out on this one. But since the SCDS has just been released and the firmware isn't quite perfect yet, it doesn't mean anything.
What does matter is that there's a lot more competition heading their way. Products like the R4 and EZV that give excellent quality at an even lower price.

As for homebrew, I don't think that's going to rule out any slot 1 devices. Since a lot of Slot 1 solutions support clean dumps, getting homebrew to work won't be such a problem once the universal method has been found. Especially since some cards are almost identical.

[AOforever1]

The way it's looking now Supercard is going to drop out on this one. But since the SCDS has just been released and the firmware isn't quite perfect yet, it doesn't mean anything.
What does matter is that there's a lot more competition heading their way. Products like the R4 and EZV that give excellent quality at an even lower price.

As for homebrew, I don't think that's going to rule out any slot 1 devices. Since a lot of Slot 1 solutions support clean dumps, getting homebrew to work won't be such a problem once the universal method has been found. Especially since some cards are almost identical.

Roman seems pretty dedicated with his work if you ask me. Constant support throughout his entire product line. That doesn't mean other companies such as the Ninjapass (their new X9) won't kick off.

[Kaphis]

sorry~ your post pretty much sound like a SC fanboy post to me O.o

if u really had done the research, you would be able to see that no one is ahead of the pack right now. As it currently stands, every single cart has its pros and cons...may it be built in memory, price, compatibility, or in SC and M3 case, company history. My wish is that supercard continue to remain dominent in the DS flashcart community but judging by reviews and how its started off, it still has quite a bit of work to do.

One thing will be true, the company that has the speediest(is that word? XD) update, most capatiblity and most "extra feature" (such as mp3) will win at the end... that was true with slot1 and that will be true for slot2. Unlike gaming consoles and popular electronics...DS flashcarts are backed by informed buyers...stores that sell flashcarts and mod DS won't stock up flashcarts that will give them problems, informed buyers won't buy from flashcart companies that require updates every time a new game comes out.

So please think a little more on this before you yell "simple", it will be M3 and SC once again ~

[AOforever1]

As it currently stands, every single cart has its pros and cons...may it be built in memory, price, compatibility, or in SC and M3 case, company history.
One thing will be true, the company that has the speediest(is that word? XD) update, most capatiblity and most "extra feature" (such as mp3) will win at the end... that was true with slot1 and that will be true for slot2. Unlike gaming consoles and popular electronics...DS flashcarts are backed by informed buyers...stores that sell flashcarts and mod DS won't stock up flashcarts that will give them problems, informed buyers won't buy from flashcart companies that require updates every time a new game comes out.

So please think a little more on this before you yell "simple", it will be M3 and SC once again ~

We may be informed buyers in this market and pros and cons definitely exist, however, Supercard and M3 definitely have a stronger presences amongst the community and buyers will come to expect the same level of quality from those companies. And those companies will continue to produce to stay in the market, unlike other brands that have just made their debut. Now regarding Supercard's recent release; the SC DS, all new products have their faults. Look at the DS-Xtreme for example, not all games ran perfectly as expect with raw dumps. And then the DS-Link, although a new company, has also proven they messed up with slot-1 at first, but quickly fixed their problems with new firmware releases. It's slot-1, it's new, and even if the DS flashcart market is filled with well informed buyers, people will most likely purchase their first new product from a seller that they know has been reliable in the past, hence giving the initial sellers an edge over others.

[sonicwind]

Ez-Flash has been slowly establishing itself with the big 3. and the R4 looks really good.  Good ones now are not going to lose to sc and m3.  If you come out early with a good product you just sucked away alot of consumers.  Just a thought.

[sinkhead]

I think the SC and M3 will still be there and bigger than the others, but other smaller companies will still survive and have great users.

- Sam

[PharaohsVizier]

Well from what Sinkhead is telling us R4 is looking really good.

I think that the EZ Flash V is way underappreciated.  The fact that someone said that the SC has constant support for all its products as a plus and didn't mention EZ Flash in that section kind of makes me angry.  

The EZ Team has some of the greatest support ever, sure their forum is kind of dead, but they have consistant updates, they may not update every week, but when someone complains on the forums about a problem or there is a rom that doesn't work, they patch it.  They still have patches for some of their older carts, which are back from GBA's reign.  I personally think that the EZ Flash V and SCDS are really similar except the EZ Flash V has better support (not bashing the SCDS, but they haven't done anything yet...).

Personally, I'm looking at the EZ Flash V or the R4 for my next cart, they both seem really solid.  SCDS isn't even in one of my options.

[Hi]

as Kaphis said, I think that "No one is ahead of the pack right now." Therefor, at the moment, I think that (Atleast this is what I thought when I FINALLY made my disicion yesterday on what slot-1 card to get) it's best to go with people who have a good company history, like the supercard or the m3. (although I chose the supercard) But who will domonate the market in the end? Only time will tell, but I think it's going to be homebrew that matters.

For the most part, capibility is good, download play is better if even if not yet perfect, and firmware is... okay. But firmware doesn't buy a cart.

I think that the following will decide who wins the market, in order of importance.

1. Homebrew (Since most else is good... homebrew is what's left. I'm guessing the supercard will win homebrew, since they already have with their slot-2 card)

2. Updates (Guess why people hate the nds 1:1? It did have some potential to be a good card, but had no updates! Well, I guess the amount of storage didn't help, but updates were certanly a big part of it. No card, with perhaps the exception of the Acekard, will have 100% capibility on the first try. So, updates are important.)

3. Firmware (A touch sencitive menu, buitiful colors, skinning suport, easy to read, oooooooooo! ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!)

That's what I think will make a card domonate the market. As I said, I think that the m3 and a few other cards have 2 and 3, but I think the supercard will win 1 in the end.

[Kaphis]

As it currently stands, every single cart has its pros and cons...may it be built in memory, price, compatibility, or in SC and M3 case, company history.
One thing will be true, the company that has the speediest(is that word? XD) update, most capatiblity and most "extra feature" (such as mp3) will win at the end... that was true with slot1 and that will be true for slot2. Unlike gaming consoles and popular electronics...DS flashcarts are backed by informed buyers...stores that sell flashcarts and mod DS won't stock up flashcarts that will give them problems, informed buyers won't buy from flashcart companies that require updates every time a new game comes out.

So please think a little more on this before you yell "simple", it will be M3 and SC once again ~

We may be informed buyers in this market and pros and cons definitely exist, however, Supercard and M3 definitely have a stronger presences amongst the community and buyers will come to expect the same level of quality from those companies. And those companies will continue to produce to stay in the market, unlike other brands that have just made their debut. Now regarding Supercard's recent release; the SC DS, all new products have their faults. Look at the DS-Xtreme for example, not all games ran perfectly as expect with raw dumps. And then the DS-Link, although a new company, has also proven they messed up with slot-1 at first, but quickly fixed their problems with new firmware releases. It's slot-1, it's new, and even if the DS flashcart market is filled with well informed buyers, people will most likely purchase their first new product from a seller that they know has been reliable in the past, hence giving the initial sellers an edge over others.

The reason why supercard and m3 can co exist is because they have different user base.....

m3 is for users who are not looking to save a few bucks and ways the best gba compatibilty there is

supercard is for users who are looking to save 10-20 dollars since we don't really care for those gba games that don't work(I am here! )

Unfortunately, with something like the R4DS in the scene...what is supercard going to do? And word is that m3 simply will be as good as R4DS...if the supercard team doesn't shape up, they will lose.....in the slot1 scene...it can easily be M3 (the expensive one) or R4DS (the cheaper one) instead of M3 vs supercard of slot2

There is nothing wrong with showing support for a product and team that you have purchased from. But there are also facts, I have purchased 2 Supercard SD, 2 Supercard lite and one Superard rumble for my girlfriend, my friends and my classmates...I standby my statements that supercard team knows exactly what they are doing when it comes to slot2. But you have to also be subjective, their SCDS is pretty much a flop right now. As customers and also supporters of the team, we need give truthful reviews of their products. I look forward to the day where my slot1 will have supercard DS in it...but until then.....R4DS is going to occupy that slot.

I understand this is the Supercard forum so I might be speaking to deaf ears here so I am going to end my opinion here.

[PharaohsVizier]

For now yes I agree with what Kaphis said.  I am a fan of Supercard (that is why I am in this forum), but so far SCDS doesn't look quite as good as the R4, or the EZV.  However, patches change everything, the Supercard always comes back with great patches.  I don't expect SCDS to lose on the Slot 1 front, but I don't think it will do well either.  

People are bombarded with choices, and seeing as how the new slot 1's don't need your DS to be flashed, and the price is considerably cheaper, as well, they are smaller and better looking, I think more people are going to buy flash carts.  Seeing as how carts like R4 are really drag and drop, easy to use, and have a pretty cheap price, it seems that new consumers will look to that cart.  Why buy an SCDS, they still have patching (hybrid), it doesn't come with a manual, and it is almost the same price if not higher?  Only Supercard fans will buy them, unless updates dramatically changes how the SCDS works right now.

Another interesting cart that I like to keep bringing up is the EZ Flash V.  It seems like it will take Supercard's place in this Slot 1 war.  They have great support that keeps on getting better, and it is relatively cheap, as well as effective.

I am very interested in how all these carts turn out.  I am still waiting for GBAtemp reviews.  I personally want to know, why haven't anyone commented on Download Play support yet?  I think that is what can help SCDS turn the tide.

[Hi]

I personally think that the supercard company is smart. therfor, if the supercarddsone doesn't do well I'd think that they'd probably develop a new card, most likly one that is cheaper since that is what the sc is known for, a low price.

[SynGamer]

Personally, the R4DS is a must have.  And the only improvement i hope and would like to see (soon) is an improved GUI...if someone could port over the SCDS GUI that would be great (if it is even possible?)

[dai_uk]

I personally think that the supercard company is smart. therfor, if the supercarddsone doesn't do well I'd think that they'd probably develop a new card, most likly one that is cheaper since that is what the sc is known for, a low price.

I actually think they're releasing to many products, SC Rumble ! what was that all about !