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I have a Nokia N73 and the pictures it takes are fantastic.
Your best bet is to go to http://www.gsmarena.com and do your homework. They have reviews for most modern GSM phones.[/url]

$450 isn't quite in my price range, but thanks for the link. I'll check out some stuff there.

I'm looking at celluloco for price ranges but i can use the gsmarena in conjunction for the reviews.

yeah the nokia n73, n90, n93 & n95 all have Carl Zeiss Optics so they must be good
http://www.zeiss.com/photo

I'm looking for good, but probably not that good. All those phones are really nice though.