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How does save game data gets corrupt on DSone V1?

Started by merdas, November 10, 2007, 05:06:15 PM

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merdas

I was wondering how the save system works...
Until today, i never had a save game getting corrupt.
The game was Neves (the tangram game), and i was really advanced.
I don't use the patch system because it makes games take too long to load.
It's not my minisd card, already checked it on my pc.
Could someone explain me how saving works?
Thanks.

anuarbin

i had experience of corrupting saves but it was my fault actually.
i turn off the ds when it was writing during start up.
took a while before i realized that.
with the new os i never had that problem anymore
yo cin

roger860

way back when sp4 was out (note i was using v2) a game file corrupted but thank god i hardy played that game lol
{Grant me the Peace of mind}
My Gear:  NDSphat                  -PSPphat
             NDSlite-crimson/black -PSPslim (2gb ms)
             Superkey              -fimeware 4.01m33-2
             Supercard Mini sd(1gb)
             supercard dsone(2gb)

merdas

But can someone explain how the save system works.
It stores the save somewhere and only when rebooting the ds does it write the save to the microsd?

jmr

QuoteIt stores the save somewhere and only when rebooting the ds does it write the save to the microsd?

yeah thats right it stores the save in a capacitor (i think that right) till you next reboot
but it you set patch it save straight to the memory card (sp5) its worth the few seconds extra booting time just for this......

roger860

#5
ok i got it well before sp5 came out sp4 and below use to save in the ram of the supercard. but when u turn it off and back on it will then write to the micro sd. thus causing a lot of saving issues because if u leave your supercard off for a while the save will erase and not have been able to get to the micro sd. but when sp5 came out they decide to take away that feature and to make it write to the micro sd directly, thus solving all the saving probelms. so if your v1 is using sp5 or above then uhh ohh. u might what to try fat test this little program that checks if u can write to the sd if u fail this test then your scone needs to be exchanged.

hope that helps
{Grant me the Peace of mind}
My Gear:  NDSphat                  -PSPphat
             NDSlite-crimson/black -PSPslim (2gb ms)
             Superkey              -fimeware 4.01m33-2
             Supercard Mini sd(1gb)
             supercard dsone(2gb)

merdas

#6
thanks for the program, will try it when i get home, but i don't think there's a problem with my card.
i don't patch games, but i guess it is better if i start too.

teknicz

If I were you, I'd get into the habit of backing up your saves every so often too.

[M]artin

I actually got corrupted roms/data a couple times (also have a first batch SCDS1). Posted about it on another forum, lemme just quote myself here... :

QuoteHey all, I just wanted to share something that I've encounted with the SCDS1 and see if anyone can relate at all.

As you know, the SCDS1 (and a few other flashcarts, I believe) have a Reset Feature. This feature allows you to hold down a combination of buttons while in-game and your DS will be reset to the SCDS1's OS menu.

At first, I thought this was wonderful and I started using it all the time. But then, I noticed a small problem. I had been playing PW2 and resetting quite often (whenever my bar ran too low, I reset it and started up from my last in-game save). Toward the end of the game, I ran into trouble when trying to start up my save. Text from the game would appear glitchy, screens would freeze, and sometimes I would even be warped back to a previous case somehow with sprites missing and lots of fucked up shit. After a while, I gave up on trying to fix the problem from within the game and simply replaced the rom on my MicroSD for a newly obtained rom (same source and all) while keeping the .sav file. Upon starting the game up this time, everything was working perfectly! No more glitchy text or freezes! This also happened to me with another game recently, PW3.

So I was wondering if anyone had any idea what the cause of this is? I've never had any fuck ups with any other games on my DS, only the PW series gives me these problems. Is resetting to the OS bad for my files? Is it safer to just power off and power back on? Is it just Trite's games that like to jerk me around?