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[riggs]

How does it suck, is it the little lag that makes it suck?  From that post it seems that he liked it, at least tahts what I got from it.

Mmm, that's what I was thinking.  "it sucks" is a little harsh tbh...personally, I think there's just a few teething problems that'll probably be ironed out fairly quickly.
Although, the Castlevania into problem still exists, which leads me to believe it's still reliant on good quailty, fast media.

In a way though, I'm quite glad it's not turned out to be some super-fantastic flashcart - I mean, I've only just ordered an SC Lite...

[PharaohsVizier]

I don't really understand the description.  So does it play GBA games?

[bitblt]

No. I think the description suggests that DSLink can start GBA games located on a GBALink (or other?) flash card.  It's impossible to run GBA games from the DS slot, without using a GBA emulator or GBA flash card.

[DeVS]

How does it suck, is it the little lag that makes it suck?  From that post it seems that he liked it, at least tahts what I got from it.

Oh ya he sounds like he liked it, but from what he says it sucks and I guess he doesn't realize it,lol. Slow downs, having to patch roms still, no passme built in, NO support for the English language, all major flaws that will make sure this thing gets buried quickly. Hell it's starting off worse then a GBA slot 2 mod and if the DS-Xtreme makes due on it's word ( of no rom patching AT ALL, just drag and drop roms, passme built in, English language too, no slow downs in roms ) then it for sure wont be able to comepete with the DS-Xtreme. Where does that leave it?

[stealthy]

Lets hope they fix all the little bugs by the time they flood the market, or supercard brings out theirs with their good support.

One thing I'd like to know is can the save files be exported to work with the DSLink?

[ImmortalNinja]

"Slow downs, having to patch roms still, no passme built in, NO support for the English language, all major flaws "

I'm not sure you can call them all major flaws when you consider you still have to patch ROMS for superCard, superCard is still reliant on superKey/flashMe and depending on media and version there are a few games with slowdown.
With time they can probably fix all those problems.
If they do then they can compete with DS_Xtreme in the same way that SuperCard competes with G6 Lite, removable storage vs on board flash storage.
KK

[sneef]

major flaws vs. ds_xtreme.  that's what he meant.

and in any case, slow downs are a major flaw period.

[bitblt]

I remember growing pains when I bought my first Supercard SD back in September '05. There was slowdown.  There was no option to load from SD, so Supercard load times took 30 seconds or more.  There was no option to save to SD, so games had to be saved on a real game cart with the correct size EEPROM.  There was no passkey/superkey so installing flashme was preferred over having passme/superpass sticking out the back of the DS.  (the good old days :lol: )

Well, Supercard has come a long way and its success can be directly attributed to its low price, its support for removable flash media, and the excellent service provided by Romman and the Supercard team.  Today Supercard Lite is the best overall slot2 solution IMHO.

Currently I have two phat DS and two DS Lite, all of them flashed.  I also have SCCF, SCSD, and SC miniSD, and they continue to serve me well.

Now I'm in the market for something different.  When I look at the new slot1 solutions the DSlink seems more attractive to me.  I like DSLink because it’s inexpensive (less than $50), supports 2GB microSD, and is extremely compact.  Also, the software features seem pretty good for a first release. I hope the DSLink team provides regular updates as promised.

The DS-Xtreme solution definitely looks cool.  Not having to patch ROMS does seem nice in theory. The built-in pass through feature is also handy, but personally I don’t need it. I’m not sure about that little USB connector. However, the biggest turn off for me is the fixed size 512MB flash memory.  I wonder how much the 1GB ver$ion will co$t?

As I’ve already stated before, no slot1 solution will provide GBA support without using a GBA emulator or GBA flash card.  I doubt there will ever be a GBA emulator for DS, especially considering the DS already supports GBA with hardware. If you want GBA support then get a slot2 solution.

[skfields01]

Not that the DS Link doesn't look cool, but why is it such a big deal for a Slot 1 device? I mean... now that there is a flush fitting Slot 2 device by the fabulous Supercard team and others... I do not see the big rush for a Slot 1 device. The Supercard Lite works just awesomely for DS games and works on about 95% of all GBA games plus NES/GB/GBC/Video and MP3. Whether I put the GBA Dust Cover in the slot or a Supercard Lite in the slot... I would still want something there to plug the hole up... might as well be a device that lets me play games, right!

I just don't see the big deal or rush for a Slot 1 device. Slot 1 or Slot 2... does it really matter? Who cares that a Slot 1 device is smaller than the Slot 2 device... it is still a flush fit for both slots. Guess I just don't understand.

[DeVS]

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I'm not sure you can call them all major flaws when you consider you still have to patch ROMS for superCard, superCard is still reliant on superKey/flashMe and depending on media and version there are a few games with slowdown.
KK

Ya that my point exactly, it's no better then a Supercard (right now it's worse then a Supercard). The DS-Xtreme is an example of moving in the right direction, the DS-Link seems to be satisfied only going halfway.

Not that the DS Link doesn't look cool, but why is it such a big deal for a Slot 1 device? I mean... now that there is a flush fitting Slot 2 device by the fabulous Supercard team and others... I do not see the big rush for a Slot 1 device. The Supercard Lite works just awesomely for DS games and works on about 95% of all GBA games and NES/GB/GBC/Video and MP3. Whether I put the GBA Dust Cover in the slot or a Supercard Lite in the slot... I would still want something there to plug the hole up... might as well be a device that lets me play games, right!

I just don't see the big deal or rush for a Slot 1 device. Slot 1 or Slot 2... does it really matter? Who cares that a Slot 1 device is smaller than the Slot 2 device... it is still a flush fit for both slots. Guess I just don't understand.

The main 2 reasons for DS Slot 1 mods is it will eliminate the need for the patching of roms. How pissed do people get when there is a new release and it doesn't work,lol. People HATE waiting for the devs to update there rom patchin software. Also it free's up the GBA slot for use of other things such as the rumble pack and (hopefuly) the use of the DS Opera ram pack. Imagine the cool things that could be done with homebrew if we could load the homebrew app from DS Slot 1 AND also be able to use the ram pack for the homebrew. I would imagine emulators (inlcuding a gba one) would see a great increase in performance with that extra ram.

[skfields01]

Yeah... I guess those are some good reasons. I kinda look at it like... I have a device that already works GREAT for Slot 2. Unless the DS Link or another device just blows my socks off... then I am sticking with what I got. Not sure if I Slot 1 device will come to fruition they way people are hoping (Not everyone will by a rumble pack or ram pack). Unless the Supercard team has a new device up there sleeve that is.

[DeVS]

I agree, most aren't going to ditch there perfectly fitting, perfectly working slot 2 mods right now, no real reason too. Once slot 1 mods start hitting the streets and developers can't start developing for them, then maybe something cool enough will come out to make people switch. My guess is that time will be atleast 3 to 6 months though. It definatly will be the way to go, but like you said right now, theres no real reason besides the convience of not having to patch roms on the DS-Xtreme (is that feature worth $120 something dollars to you,lol).

[PharaohsVizier]

I don't see what the big deal is about the DS-Xtreme.  It doesn't have built-in memory, it's just another slot 1 cart.  The only plus is that it is drag and drop, which I don't see as a plus.  I see it as a BIG negative.  If there is a ROM that doesn't work, how will they update it to work?  They have to update the patcher, and I hate updating the patcher.  I'd rather spend 10 seconds everytime I upload a ROM to just patch it.  Also if they have no patch, they won't have things like trimming ROMS, a restart patch, and so on.

I am looking to get something that fits flush for my DS Lite to replace my old Supercard Mini SD.  As far as I can tell, "the major flaws" are all here in the SC Mini, I mean the slowdowns, having to patch the roms (which is still true for the SC Lite), no passme built-in (true for SC Lite), no support for English (true for things like G6 Lite at launch, give it some time).  Basically it looks like my SC Mini except fitting flush into the DS, and no GBA.  

The slot 2 carts are definately still good, and I want one, but what about future support of the gyroscope (if true), what about the opera RAM.  I don't think we need to worry that much, Nintendo has never made a lot of games exclusive for a specific add-on.  They make sure you can play the game if you have the game and the system, the add-ons only enhance it.  Opera Web Browser was an exception because it was absolutely necessary, it CAN'T work without the RAM.  So far I have my eyes on SC Lite or maybe M3 Lite, but the slot 1 carts don't look that great.  DS-Xtreme looks like it is going to suck, DS Link is just a smaller SC Mini SD.

[ImmortalNinja]

Well....
perosnally I dont think any of them are going to suck really.
They're just going to have different functionality.
I'm pretty sure after a couple of months through upgrades they're all going to be capable of doing pretty much the same thing....
I'm still rather curious about how X-treme works without flashing.
Unless it dupliactes a DS card exactly...
KK

[DeVS]

I'm still rather curious about how X-treme works without flashing.

KK

The DS-Xtreme has passme built into it unlike DS-Link.