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The offical movie player stikes back! (Romman take note)

Started by wudi, June 02, 2005, 11:30:26 PM

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stupid2ass

Quote from: "Trenton_net"
Quote from: "stupid2ass"The people you heard that from must be from the Supercard fans :)I've been reading the Lik Sang forums (and others) and they will ship it to anyone and everyone willing to sell it.
How this is going to be compatible with the DS games is beyond me.  The OS/menu will kill the ability to load games unless they have some way around this.  I hope it does everything they promised (unlike that Crystal Engine claim they made which didn't improve video at all, just the file size).  
Yeah I'm disapointed the SD version is hardly any better than the CF version.   Typical chinese product where they focus far too much attention to price rather than performance/quality.
Well, you odviously missed the previous post (Which was deleted for talk about piracy) which stated:

"The M3 will not be available outside of china...", "... the reason for this, as I understood it, was due to some changes in the way games were handled. I don't know the specifics, but it probably violated some copyright law somewhere. To quote my source: "because with M3 you can play games. no limit". Anyway. That’s the final word on it. DEDE, from .com, was not fully informed on the subject, which is where the first source of information came from. Joann then began telling people that M3 doesn't exist to counter this, since it wasn't making a release outside china."

As you can see, even the lik-sang forums (If that means anything) also supports what I just mentioned. Lik-sang and other retailers were sued multiple times for selling gray market devices like flash copiers and mod chips. In the rare case some English stores do manage to import anything, you can be sure there will be no English translation/manual/localization of it.

As far as I read from Chinese forums, GBAMP has no intention to officially release or sell outside of China. This goes as far as to tell sales reps to deny the products existence (For simplicity) if foreign customers ask about it (As supported by the above quoted comment from the lik-sang forums).
Oh you mean OFFICIAL word.  We'll see.  What makes the M3 different from any of the flash linkers out there?  They also exist pretty much for illegal uses despite the "development kit" moniker.  
When it is finally released in China, let's see how fast it will be before the usual online retailers that sell flash linkers (and the SC) start selling them in public.

alias_neo

Quote from: "Trenton_net"
Though if you live in a place like Toronto, and can speak Chinese, im sure Chinese stores will get stock eventually. :-) If you can't speak Chinese and buy stuff from Lik-Sang, it might be impossible since those places were sued by Nintendo and other companies for selling pirate material.

Do you happen to live in Toronto? If so, I assume youve been to Pacific Mall. I've been there and asked if they had any GBA flash cards but they didnt have any. Maybe they didnt have it at the time or something but do chinese stores really sell flash cards? If you know any stores in particular please respond or PM me. Im not chinese but I have a lot of chinese friends and they usually help me out when going buying stuff from chinese stores  :wink:

Hectic

my ass it's only being released in china.  that would be a very boneheaded move and i highly doubt there would exist a webpage in full english //www.m3adapter.com with downloadable software with the option of english gui text as well as 3 other languages.  i'd be very surprised if it were china only.  lik sang was sued ages ago, so was Bung but what did they do?  start up another company under another name almost immediately afterwards.  the chinese have balls and they aren't going to be suckered into losing money by rejecting business to the rest of the world.  take your lame rumors elsewhere.

stupid2ass

Quote from: "alias_neo"
Quote from: "Trenton_net"
Though if you live in a place like Toronto, and can speak Chinese, im sure Chinese stores will get stock eventually. :-) If you can't speak Chinese and buy stuff from Lik-Sang, it might be impossible since those places were sued by Nintendo and other companies for selling pirate material.

Do you happen to live in Toronto? If so, I assume youve been to Pacific Mall. I've been there and asked if they had any GBA flash cards but they didnt have any. Maybe they didnt have it at the time or something but do chinese stores really sell flash cards? If you know any stores in particular please respond or PM me. Im not chinese but I have a lot of chinese friends and they usually help me out when going buying stuff from chinese stores  :wink:
Pacific Mall is a ripoff whether you're Chinese or not. You're better off with online retailers or go to places like redflagdeals and look at the buy-sell area there.

mat

http://m3adapter.com/main.htm
ENGLISH WEBSITE.

I want one bad. I think they're a little harsh on the supercard comparissons...
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Unfortunately, unlike the ball, people do not bounce.

raghugs

i e-mailed them asking about when they are going to release M3 in USA,
and the reply was
QuoteHi,

Thanks for your corcern about our products .
M3 GBA adapter has not sold now. It will be put out after 2-3
weeks later.

Regards
Danny

one thing i am wondering is that, they are comparing M3 Adapter against Supercard with so much confidence

Trenton_net

Quote from: "alias_neo"Do you happen to live in Toronto? If so, I assume youve been to Pacific Mall. I've been there and asked if they had any GBA flash cards but they didnt have any. Maybe they didnt have it at the time or something but do chinese stores really sell flash cards? If you know any stores in particular please respond or PM me. Im not chinese but I have a lot of chinese friends and they usually help me out when going buying stuff from chinese stores  :wink:
Well, Pacific mall can be a rip-off if you don’t' know what your doing. But they can also have good deals too. As far as Flash cards go, they did sell them the last time I checked. However, because the RCMP has raided some game shops before, they usually keep all stock behind the counter or displayed discreetly unlabeled. In most cases you need to ask for what you want in Chinese. Most store owners are weary when Caucasians come in because they don’t know if your Police or not so a lot just pretend they don’t sell or don’t know what that is. Although some pirate CD stores are getting rather bold. They used to hide the ordering catalogues behind the desks. Now they just leave them around for anyone to look at.

Quote from: "Hectic"my ass it's only being released in china. that would be a very boneheaded move and i highly doubt there would exist a webpage in full english www.m3adapter.com with downloadable software with the option of english gui text as well as 3 other languages. i'd be very surprised if it were china only. lik sang was sued ages ago, so was Bung but what did they do? start up another company under another name almost immediately afterwards. the chinese have balls and they aren't going to be suckered into losing money by rejecting business to the rest of the world. take your lame rumors elsewhere.
First off, I get my information from Chinese websites, local stores (ie. in Shanghai), and the like. All I'm doing is sharing that information. Take it as you will.

About the actual M3 product, when they say released, they mean official released. You won't be able to just go to your local game store and buy a flashcard like you would a Nintendo game (Outside of China). While yes, it is possible some independent English stores might take it upon themselves to get stock; it does not necessarily mean GBAMP is officially distributing outside of China. Again, this is subject to just what I heard. As far as English goes, I should probably retract a previous comment and rephrase to say “In the case they do English localization, it wouldn’t be unheard of since HK is quite English influenced. Though there is a chance they won’t.”

As far as hope for Lik-Sang goes, they have never spawned any child companies to sell pirate material.  Just spawning child companies doesn’t work for big entities, and lik-sang’s (new management) CEO stated that they are totally legit. Only the old management engaged in gray market sales, and they collapsed under lawsuits from different companies.

Quote from: "raghugs"One thing i am wondering is that, they are comparing M3 Adapter against Supercard with so much confidence
Well in China GBAMP are pretty much non-existent in the market. Supercard made sure of that.  They are rather sore about this point since Supercard stole and modified the GBAMP code to run on their hardware. Since GBAMP was trying to be a legit company they could never really incorporate the same features into their card and expect to sell them worldwide without being sued. Now they have to re-take the Chinese market and thats proving to be very difficult since so many comparable products have already been released for a long time. It makes sence that they are pushing their positive features hard, in order to make their card "that much better" so people will find a reason to buy it.

raghugs

Quote from: "Trenton_net"
Quote from: "alias_neo"Do you happen to live in Toronto? If so, I assume youve been to Pacific Mall. I've been there and asked if they had any GBA flash cards but they didnt have any. Maybe they didnt have it at the time or something but do chinese stores really sell flash cards? If you know any stores in particular please respond or PM me. Im not chinese but I have a lot of chinese friends and they usually help me out when going buying stuff from chinese stores  :wink:
Well, Pacific mall can be a rip-off if you don’t' know what your doing. But they can also have good deals too. As far as Flash cards go, they did sell them the last time I checked. However, because the RCMP has raided some game shops before, they usually keep all stock behind the counter or displayed discreetly unlabeled. In most cases you need to ask for what you want in Chinese. Most store owners are weary when Caucasians come in because they don’t know if your Police or not so a lot just pretend they don’t sell or don’t know what that is. Although some pirate CD stores are getting rather bold. They used to hide the ordering catalogues behind the desks. Now they just leave them around for anyone to look at.

Quote from: "Hectic"my ass it's only being released in china. that would be a very boneheaded move and i highly doubt there would exist a webpage in full english www.m3adapter.com with downloadable software with the option of english gui text as well as 3 other languages. i'd be very surprised if it were china only. lik sang was sued ages ago, so was Bung but what did they do? start up another company under another name almost immediately afterwards. the chinese have balls and they aren't going to be suckered into losing money by rejecting business to the rest of the world. take your lame rumors elsewhere.
First off, I get my information from Chinese websites, local stores (ie. in Shanghai), and the like. All I'm doing is sharing that information. Take it as you will.

About the actual M3 product, when they say released, they mean official released. You won't be able to just go to your local game store and buy a flashcard like you would a Nintendo game (Outside of China). While yes, it is possible some independent English stores might take it upon themselves to get stock; it does not necessarily mean GBAMP is officially distributing outside of China. Again, this is subject to just what I heard. As far as English goes, I should probably retract a previous comment and rephrase to say “In the case they do English localization, it wouldn’t be unheard of since HK is quite English influenced. Though there is a chance they won’t.”

As far as hope for Lik-Sang goes, they have never spawned any child companies to sell pirate material.  Just spawning child companies doesn’t work for big entities, and lik-sang’s (new management) CEO stated that they are totally legit. Only the old management engaged in gray market sales, and they collapsed under lawsuits from different companies.

Quote from: "raghugs"One thing i am wondering is that, they are comparing M3 Adapter against Supercard with so much confidence
Well in China GBAMP are pretty much non-existent in the market. Supercard made sure of that.  They are rather sore about this point since Supercard stole and modified the GBAMP code to run on their hardware. Since GBAMP was trying to be a legit company they could never really incorporate the same features into their card and expect to sell them worldwide without being sued. Now they have to re-take the Chinese market and thats proving to be very difficult since so many comparable products have already been released for a long time. It makes sence that they are pushing their positive features hard, in order to make their card "that much better" so people will find a reason to buy it.

Hey you didn't take my full comment,
i quoted their reply to the question i asked "when would M3 GBA Adapter going to be released in USA?"

another thing AFAIK even if distributers sell M3 GBA Adapter in USA (if M3 GBA Adapter isn't legitimate) they too would be sued,
and there is no reason for a company to create a english website that sell products only to China.

another thought is GBAMP folks may know the weak point of their firmware that has been stold by Supercard. so they may
created a new firmware fixing all bugs that pleagued Supercard na?
else they can't be this much confidence,

Hectic

all we need to know is in raghug's last post.

oh, i never said anything about child labor.  i don't think anyone did...

Trenton_net

Heh, whats this about child labor? First time i'm hearing it too.

Minger

Quote from: "alias_neo"Do you happen to live in Toronto? If so, I assume youve been to Pacific Mall. I've been there and asked if they had any GBA flash cards but they didnt have any. Maybe they didnt have it at the time or something but do chinese stores really sell flash cards? If you know any stores in particular please respond or PM me. Im not chinese but I have a lot of chinese friends and they usually help me out when going buying stuff from chinese stores  :wink:

:D This will actually make me want to go to Toronto next tim e my parents want  to drag me there again, aolthough...my mandarin is a little shotty, and I'd hav eno idea how to ask for the Gameboy stuff...should be interesting.

Hectic

no need to worry.  unless m3adapter.com is a bunch of kids with nothing better to do than lie and make a really professional looking website, than this thing should be here within a month.  that as of now, they are working on the ability for the m3 to support untouched DS dumps rather than forcing users to apply a patch to each rom to change the header which is how it has to be done atm.  personally, i wouldn't mind having to patch ds roms.  it's satisfying enough that you won't have to patch the gba roms, but i guess they want to perfect the thing which i won't complain about.  they say about a month it should be available at online shops.

Trenton_net

I've learned from a HK supplier that product promotion is set in China to occur in 2 weeks. There are 4 models. Type M3-NDS CF, M3-GBA CF, M3-NDS SD, and M3-GBA SD. If ordering in small quantities, HK vendors can handle supply directly. If ordering large volume, the manufactures in ShenZhen will do it. I hope to receive a sample unit as soon as its available. No price or availability of models has been announced to vendors yet.

EDIT: Uploaded pictures of the M3 CF-Type card as being sold in China (will ship to HK). Of course it is subject to change, but I have still yet to hear any word if the M3 is going to be sold outside of China (Officially). I have yet to see any English retail units, but here is whats being sold in China now. I'd post a review of the unit, but I dunno if this BBS supports Chinese.

Retail box from Chinese store(s):



External Case:



Internal design:



M3 running code in real DS mode:


Ramin

Well shag me with a Swedish-made crowbar and call me Sven Yaksit! This thing seems to be picking up momentum.

I wonder, though. What action do you think Romman will take? Will he rip the new GBAMP code and add more shiaz to it?

Hectic

who cares, support this thing and screw romman and his pathetic excuse for quality.