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[Gleasonator]

To make a long story short... I'm trying to convince my friend's dad to let him buy a SuperCard, but they're extremely... "lawful".

Anyone know what you need to be able to have a ROM image? Like... the actual cartrage or just proof of purchase? I believe Clinton passed a law having to do with this.

[tennisgy]

I dont think you are allowed to have a backup at all in the U.S.

[bitblt]

To make a long story short... I'm trying to convince my friend's dad to let him buy a SuperCard, but they're extremely... "lawful".

Tell your friends Dad that you guys need another Supercard so you can run homebrew, learn to program in C++, and use it for other educational purposes.

[darkuni]

AFAIAC, if you own the game, you should own a right to play that game anytime and any way you choose.  If morality is a problem, trick his dad by asking him if it is okay to buy a CD, then copy it to tape to listen to in a CDPlayer-less car.  This is NO different than that.

[socket]

Yeah, It can run neat homebrew apps.  Like really neat stuff.

[liquidnitrogen]

well, the best homebrew i feel is moonshell for the nds...

videos, music, text, images.... awesome.

it is basically like buying that new NDS music player but with even more things to do.

(sadly, i still cant get ndsmail or dsliveweather to work... dsorganize doesnt save on the microSD so that kills it too .. -.- connect to AP fine, all settings on wifi good, but for some reason it doesnt connect to the internet)

hm, the internet has a vague line between legal and illegal... heh

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another example of this could be...

buying a CD from a store, and ripping the music to put into your mp3 player (iPod, supercard, or whatnots)
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to say again, supercards by themselves are legal. they are not violating any laws.
but rather what the person does with them can either be legal or illegal.

take for instance computers.
by themselves, they are perfectly legal. but they can be used to download movies, games, and participate in activities that are illegal...

another extreme example are guns.
by themselves, it is perfectly legal to own it. whatever the person does with it though, like perhaps murdering another person is illegal...

[Perseid]

The 'law Clinton passed' was Digital Millenium Copyright Act which basically says that tools for decrypting and breaking copy protection are illegal and the act of breaking encrypted copy protection is also illegal.

So that means that if the DS carts are not encrypred(and I don't know if they are or not) you can legally dump them all you want for your own personal use.

And no matter what, whether you own it or not, downloading a copy is illegal.

But as was stated before Supercards can be and really are being used for legal, homebrew purposes. I've been making some stupid little games for my  DS and it's fun. And totally legal.

[Scottyn]

Give it to your friend as a birthday/xmas present!

[bitblt]

AFAIAC, if you own the game, you should own a right to play that game anytime and any way you choose.  If morality is a problem, trick his dad by asking him if it is okay to buy a CD, then copy it to tape to listen to in a CDPlayer-less car.  This is NO different than that.

I totaly agree with you from the moral standpoint, even if it does technicaly break some lame ass Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

[ImmortalNinja]

But how many people can honestly say they stop only at the games they own originals of?

[Hanafuda]

Aside from the original common law felonies, and if you like the Ten Commandments, there are very few laws that have ever been put into effect that were not intended to help the rich stay that way.

[darkuni]

But how many people can honestly say they stop only at the games they own originals of?

*raises hand*

I use the Supercard to "sample" latest games.  Those I like, I buy.  Those I don't, get removed from the card.

Probably stretching the LETTER of the law, but I feel upholding the SPIRIT of the law.

[sneef]

i agree.  it's no different than taking a car for a test drive.  You wouldn't buy a car without seeing how it drives...

[Robotochan]

I also only use ROMs to test new games, in the UK we are lucky enough to be allowed to have as many backups of our media as we like as long as we can justify it so I can backup my games and use my Supercard for them

[bitblt]

i agree.  it's no different than taking a car for a test drive.  You wouldn't buy a car without seeing how it drives...

Exactly.

I still have MechAssault: Phantom War on my Supercard because I haven't found a copy at Fry's or BestBuy yet. Does that make me a bad person?